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The Baker Act, America's communist Gulag
Mainestategop ^ | Brian Ball

Posted on 05/16/2016 10:32:41 AM PDT by mainestategop

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To: mainestategop

I don’t understand why people in Maine are citing Florida’s Baker Act for problems in their own State. My mother’s family is from Maine so I know a little about the people who live their. The problem is not Florida’s Baker Act but rather the people of Maine’s support for liberal politicians.


21 posted on 05/16/2016 1:16:40 PM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: buckalfa

The Kennedy family was also big in getting the unfit for normal life released from the sanitariums.
Seems one of the Kennedy clan, I believe it was Rose, spent much of her life institutionalized for some reason or another.

I vaguely remember the TV ads talking about the Kennedy family “leading the fight to erase the stigma” of being a froot loop.

We are now faced with all manner of dangerous mental deviants who are allowed to rape, murder and commit other crimes at will.
But the Kennedy’s got to feel good about themselves, so it’s all good.


22 posted on 05/16/2016 1:30:25 PM PDT by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of God and Virginian because Jesus loves me. CRUZ 2016!)
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To: oldvirginian
The Kennedy family was also big in getting the unfit for normal life released from the sanitariums. Seems one of the Kennedy clan, I believe it was Rose, spent much of her life institutionalized for some reason or another.

I vaguely remember the TV ads talking about the Kennedy family “leading the fight to erase the stigma” of being a froot loop.

Well who gets to decide who is unfit for normal life? Anyways there's a big difference between mental deviants and people who are handicapped or brain damaged or suffered trauma. It was probably one of the few things that the Kennedys did that had any positive impact. Problem is they went too far.

23 posted on 05/16/2016 1:55:39 PM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: MichaelRDanger
I live in New Hampshire now. I am citing it because mental health posses a danger to American freedoms especially when wielded by Democrats.

Also while Maine does not have a Baker Act, Maine and several other states like California, New York and Massachusetts have mental health systems that are dangerous and out of control, targeting otherwise healthy normal people just because they have "too much money" or are "eccentric" people.

24 posted on 05/16/2016 1:58:55 PM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop

Well back when they were concerned about peoples *health* instead of pushing an agenda, there were these things called Doctors.
Most of them were conscientious and did their very best to see that the patient got the best care available *at that time*.

There were a few, as there always are, that were hacks and quacks.
Unfortunately the actions of a few hacks and quacks got the publicity, not the thousands of doctors who worked hard for their patients.

Enter the Kennedy’s and the other idiot liberals who insisted on completely destroying a system that, for the most part, served society well.

Liberals always take things too far.
It’s what they do.


25 posted on 05/16/2016 6:55:35 PM PDT by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of God and Virginian because Jesus loves me. CRUZ 2016!)
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To: mainestategop
Our founding fathers never intended for us to depend on police officers. That's one reason they had the 2nd amendment. Back in the day police were rarely necessary except in large crowded cities.

The reason for the 2nd was the British as there were no Police confiscating firearms in the 1770's. And it was the British the were during the crowd control. Just look up the Boston Massacre ;-/

Ed

26 posted on 05/16/2016 7:19:30 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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Ed

27 posted on 05/16/2016 7:20:26 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: oldvirginian
Any system that deprives people of their liberty because of hearsay or he said she said needs to be destroyed. Most people in institutions were either eccentric or had only mild problems that didn't require institutionalization.

The liberals haven't gotten rid of it. they support it in Illinois and New York. A friend of mine, Maurice Newhope was put in Sinai hosptial where he suffered terribly. This while violent crazy people roamed East Harlem where they arrested him. REASON: He was assulted by a liberal.

28 posted on 05/16/2016 7:37:32 PM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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No offense, but you need to spend some time around crazy people and then rewrite your story. I know nothing about Baker, but I have dealt with numerous unstable individuals and have had people Baker acted many times. 72 hours is not unreasonable to keep someone under evaluation when they are a suicidal or homicidal.

We really haven’t gotten rid of mental institutions; we simply incarcerate many of the mentally ill. There is no easy answer, but some people are not capable of living in a free society and those institutions served a legitimate purpose.


29 posted on 05/16/2016 8:03:07 PM PDT by antidisestablishment (If those who defend our freedom do not know liberty, none of us will have either.)
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Long story short; an acquaintance of mine was MURDERED by an “eccentric” who went off his meds as soon as the froot loop got out of the mental hospital his family had put him in.

Damned glad the poor little “eccentric” POS wasn’t deprived of his liberty.

Some people need to be put away before they kill.


30 posted on 05/17/2016 12:32:40 AM PDT by oldvirginian (American by birth, Southern by the grace of God and Virginian because Jesus loves me. CRUZ 2016!)
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To: mainestategop

Interesting discussion will, I think, ensue.

Isn’t this exactly what many on this forum have been calling for, in light of all the crazies and their mass shootings, that we can more easily get them into a setting where they are no longer a danger to themselves and others?

I’ve had the distinct displeasure of going through this a handful of times with my off-her-meds mother (RIP).


31 posted on 05/17/2016 4:34:19 AM PDT by dmz
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No offense, but you need to spend some time around crazy people and then rewrite your story.

Actually I have. I went to anti-war rallies, I went to Occupy wallstreet in Zuccoti Park and recently I infiltrated a leftist agitator group made up of homeless people. Plus, Maine has lots of crazies. New Hampshire even has a few.

72 hours is not unreasonable to keep someone under evaluation when they are a suicidal or homicidal.

Or if they protest against the government and have "too much money."

some people are not capable of living in a free society and those institutions served a legitimate purpose.

Who gets to decide who lives in a free society? On what basis do we get to decide to throw away and terminate one's God given rights? You're treading on dangerous ground. My friend had that happen.

32 posted on 05/17/2016 3:19:47 PM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: oldvirginian
Long story short; an acquaintance of mine was MURDERED by an “eccentric” who went off his meds as soon as the froot loop got out of the mental hospital his family had put him in.

He wasn't an eccentric, he was evil.

My friend, never hurt a fly, but the state of Maine along with Massachusetts and New York thought it would be best to take away his liberty. So while people like the serial killer who killed your friend gets to go free, productive healthy people like my friend lost their liberty.

It doesn't work. It never has it never will. The state has no business dictating who gets to live and who doesn't. Every time it has happened, the wrong people get screwed and the right people are let loose to cause trouble.

33 posted on 05/17/2016 3:22:06 PM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop

Most people Baler Acted have no mental health problem. But they likely will after they receive mental health treatment. The psychiatric profession has a vested financial interest in getting their patients dependent on psych drugs. That is the entire psych profession’s revenue model. They are, in fact, drug dealers for the big pharmaceutical companies. The psychs conscientiously know they are forcing people to get hooks on meds and the psychs themselves are criminally insane. The police and court system also benefit by the Baker act in court fees and police confiscated items and also more pharma drug revenue received into the community.
The best thing would be a law that retroactively punishes all those in the psych profession that administered harmful psych drugs. It is will known that psych drugs cause dependencies, suicides, loss of production and creativity and are a gateway to abusing hard illegal drugs. It’s time to burn ALL the psychiatrists and their minions at the stake.


34 posted on 05/31/2016 11:02:00 PM PDT by TrithisFreedom
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