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DNA carries traces of past events meaning poor lifestyle can affect future generations
The London Telegraph ^ | June 4, 2015 | Sarah Knapton, Science Editor

Posted on 06/04/2015 5:37:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If true, then the Kennedys would be turning into a bunch of brain damaged alcoholic fools from birth...


21 posted on 06/04/2015 6:52:44 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The 1st amendment is the voice and the 2nd is the teeth of freedom. Obama wants to knock out both.)
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To: Rameumptom

Bingo!!


22 posted on 06/04/2015 7:11:55 PM PDT by mothball
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It appears I’ve been spending down the family inheritance.


23 posted on 06/04/2015 7:23:34 PM PDT by posterchild
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is called “epigenetics”: the altering of the chemistry of individual DNA base pairs without altering the sequence.

It has been known for decades that some traits develop that are not encoded genetically. For example, some reptiles do not have XX and XY chromosomes, and turn male or female depending on whether they developed in an egg close to the center of the next (where it is warm) or closer to the edge.

There are abundant examples of traits that arise from factors other than DNA sequence, which we are only recently beginning to understand.


24 posted on 06/04/2015 7:31:06 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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DNA carries traces of past events meaning poor lifestyle can affect future generations

That statement is so raciss I am not allowed any sort of comment about it.

25 posted on 06/04/2015 7:32:46 PM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: exDemMom

When I first heard of epigenetics (thank you Jonathan Park) I knew I was toast.


26 posted on 06/04/2015 7:53:34 PM PDT by NorthstarMom (God says debt is a curse and children are a blessing, yet we apply for loans and prevent pregnancy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If events can alter future DNA of our descendants, then, in the future, people will start getting pregnant orally and anally. Guys will also start having babies, and women wont need men to get pregnant.

A man who is walloped with a baseball bat, will have grandchildren with bumps on their heads. And so on, and so forth....

Only people who lead perfect lives and don’t get into trouble and don’t do kinky things, will pass on healthy DNA.

Where’s my global warming bible?


27 posted on 06/04/2015 7:55:40 PM PDT by adorno (a)
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To: Blueflag

Hey, all you guys bringing up Lamarck, quit it. Your elitist knowledge is making the rest of us look dumb. Please report to the government lobotomy center for correction.


28 posted on 06/04/2015 9:51:59 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Its been clear for a long time that there are mechanisms for retaining environmentally acquired changes in the genetic code and not simply through crude and aimless natural selection.


29 posted on 06/04/2015 10:27:51 PM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: cyn

Thanks cyn, will ping after travel.


30 posted on 06/05/2015 1:21:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Maelstorm

I’ll never forget how theatrical my Genetics 101 teacher at UC Berkeley 1963 appeared when he departed from his usually dry lecture style to rail like a holy man against Lysenko. It seemed inappropriate, for a general survey course, to get that carried away by an obscure bit of heretic genetic theory. His self righteousness, seen from a 50 year perspective, says a lot about what is wrong with academia today.


31 posted on 06/05/2015 10:54:15 AM PDT by Yollopoliuhqui
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To: cyn; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks cyn.

32 posted on 06/05/2015 11:43:34 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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Maybe this is it?
33 posted on 06/05/2015 11:50:28 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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But to a certain extent, some of this COULD be explained by crude and aimless natural selection.

Suppose in some medieval European village there were two men, neither who had yet fathered children. And then there was a terrible famine. Man 1 burned through his daily calories very efficiently, and man 2 did not. Man 2 had a gene that limited insulin’s ability to be absorbed into the body’s cells while man 1 had no such problem. Because of this, man 2 has gained a little weight by not burning all his calories. His liver is also affected, storing extra sugar. His metabolism is down, and he’s often sleepy and non-energetic, even to the point that some think he’s lazy.

However, now, due to this famine, man 1’s reduced diet makes him succumb to starvation, but man 2 hangs on a little longer. The winter wheat crop finally does not freeze solid this winter, and the famine is over. Man 2 gets to pass on his genes, even this problematic insulin resistance gene, while man two, of course, being dead, does not.

Anyways, that’s not saying events occurred this way, only how natural selection could still be the driving factor.


34 posted on 06/05/2015 1:32:49 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: Sherman Logan

There’s another theory called epigenetics.
Basically, it means there are on/off switches to express certain traits, and these switches can be flipped by how you live your life, and those switch states passed on to your progeny.


35 posted on 06/05/2015 1:35:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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So can your progeny switch them back to the original setting by their life choices?

Don’t know anything about this, so I’m asking in good faith.


36 posted on 06/05/2015 1:38:27 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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I have just surface knowledge of this, but I’d think they COULD change the switches.

As someone posted earlier, the iniquities are visited to the 3rd & 4th generations.


37 posted on 06/05/2015 1:43:44 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SunkenCiv

That description of changes in histones is not *quite* correct. While histones can be chemically modified to bind the DNA wrapped around them more tightly, maintaining that DNA in an inactive state, that is not the determinant of which DNA is turned off. Essentially, the “decision” to turn off certain DNA expression is made by other proteins in the cell, and influenced by signals that often come from outside the cell. In order for a cell to duplicate its DNA in preparation for replication, it has to remove the histones from the DNA in order for DNA synthesis to occur. This fact alone suggests strongly that the modification state of histones is not heritable, but is a function of various other proteins in the cell.

The DNA undergoes methylation at certain nucleotides. Those methylation patterns are really what control whether a particular stretch of DNA is inert or active. As far as I know, the DNA methylation patterns are heritable, to a degree.

Goodness, even though I looked extensively at regulation of DNA transcription during my PhD studies, I realize now that I am horribly rusty on the whole topic of histone and DNA modification.


38 posted on 06/05/2015 4:25:54 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Thanks exDemMom! And wouldn't the histones be for men, and the hertones be for the women? /rimshot

39 posted on 06/06/2015 4:28:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is news?

We Irish have known this forever. Now, excuse me while I grab another Whiskey...


40 posted on 06/06/2015 4:40:20 AM PDT by antidisestablishment (The last days of America will not resemble Rome, but Carthage.)
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