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Obama at Poverty Forum on ‘Capitalist Types Who Are Reading Ayn Rand & Think Everybody Are Moochers’
The PJ Tatler ^ | May 12, 2015 | Bridget Johnson

Posted on 05/12/2015 8:19:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama said today that the incidents with police in Baltimore and Ferguson, along with “a growing awareness of inequality in our society,” can turn attention back to poverty in America and bridge “ideological divides that have prevented us from making progress.”

At the Georgetown University panel on poverty, Obama name-dropped Ayn Rand and acknowledged he may speak differently to a black audience.

Panelists joining the president were American Enterprise Institute President Arthur Brooks, Harvard professor Robert Putnam, and Washington Post columnist E.J. Dionne.

“The stereotype is that you’ve got folks on the left who just want to pour more money into social programs, and don’t care anything about culture or parenting or family structures, and that’s one stereotype. And then you’ve got cold-hearted, free market, capitalist types who are reading Ayn Rand and think everybody are moochers. And I think the truth is more complicated,” Obama said.

“I think that there are those on the conservative spectrum who deeply care about the least of these, deeply care about the poor; exhibit that through their churches, through community groups, through philanthropic efforts, but are suspicious of what government can do. And then there are those on the left who I think are in the trenches every day and see how important parenting is and how important family structures are, and the connective tissue that holds communities together and recognize that that contributes to poverty when those structures fray, but also believe that government and resources can make a difference in creating an environment in which young people can succeed despite great odds.”

Brooks quipped that when Obama was railing on cold-hearted capitalists, “what was going through my head was, please don’t look at me, please don’t look at me.”

“I’m more outnumbered than my Thanksgiving table in Seattle, let me tell you,” the head of the free-enterprise think tank added.

“So how are we on the center right talking about poverty in the most effective way? Number one is with a conceptual matter. We have a grave tendency on both the left and the right to talk about poor people as ‘the other.’ Remember in Matthew 25, these are our brothers and sisters,” Brooks continued.

“…When you talk about people as your brothers and sisters you don’t talk about them as liabilities to manage. They’re not liabilities to manage. They’re assets to develop because every one of us made in God’s image is an asset to develop. That’s a completely different approach to poverty alleviation. That’s a human capital approach to poverty alleviation. That’s what we can do to stimulate that conversation on the political right, just as it can be on the political left.”

Obama maintained that a free market is “perfectly compatible” with government “investment” programs.

“People don’t like being poor. It’s time-consuming. It’s stressful. It’s hard. And so over time, families frayed. Men who could not get jobs left. Mothers who are single are not able to read as much to their kids. So all that was happening 40 years ago to African-Americans,” the president said. “And now what we’re seeing is that those same trends have accelerated and they’re spreading to the broader community.”

He added that over the past few decades “the effort to suggest that the poor are sponges, leaches, don’t want to work, are lazy, are undeserving, got traction.”

“And, look, it’s still being propagated,” Obama continued. “I mean, I have to say that if you watch Fox News on a regular basis, it is a constant menu — they will find folks who make me mad. I don’t know where they find them. They’re like, I don’t want to work, I just want a free Obama phone — or whatever. And that becomes an entire narrative — right? — that gets worked up. And very rarely do you hear an interview of a waitress — which is much more typical — who’s raising a couple of kids and is doing everything right but still can’t pay the bills.”

Obama also commented on “this whole family-character values-structure issue.”

“It’s true that if I’m giving a commencement at Morehouse that I will have a conversation with young black men about taking responsibility as fathers that I probably will not have with the women of Barnard. And I make no apologies for that. And the reason is, is because I am a black man who grew up without a father and I know the cost that I paid for that. And I also know that I have the capacity to break that cycle, and as a consequence, I think my daughters are better off,” he said.

“…When I’m sitting there talking to these kids, and I’ve got a boy who says, you know what, how did you get over being mad at your dad, because I’ve got a father who beat my mom and now has left, and has left the state, and I’ve never seen him because he’s trying to avoid $83,000 in child support payments, and I want to love my dad, but I don’t know how to do that — I’m not going to have a conversation with him about macroeconomics.”

The president said he’s “all for” values and character — things stressed by Brooks — “but I also know that that character and the values that our kids have that allow them to succeed, and delayed gratification and discipline and hard work — that all those things in part are shaped by what they see, what they see really early on.”

“And some of those kids right now, because of no fault of those kids, and because of history and some tough going, generationally, some of those kids, they’re not going to get help at home,” Obama added. “They’re not going to get enough help at home. And the question then becomes, are we committed to helping them instead?”


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: aei; arthurbrooks; aynrand; baltimore; blackkk; communist; ejdionne; ferguson; maryland; missouri; moochelle; obama; obamaphone; redistribution; reparations; robertputnam; washingtoncompost; washingtonpost; welfare
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1 posted on 05/12/2015 8:19:48 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, right. Just like you and your Moochelle.


2 posted on 05/12/2015 8:21:56 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This would be funny if it weren’t so sad. The biggest, laziest ass , no count bum of a president lecturing the rest of us on responsibility. What a prick.


3 posted on 05/12/2015 8:22:22 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He is such an anti-American creep.


4 posted on 05/12/2015 8:22:30 PM PDT by boycott
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee.

Can’t understand why Americans think Baqaq is a Communist.


5 posted on 05/12/2015 8:22:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is classic. It really can get worse.


6 posted on 05/12/2015 8:25:52 PM PDT by CIDKauf (No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, Rand was right and nearly half the country ARE. 60% are also clinically insane.


7 posted on 05/12/2015 8:26:04 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People who live off of others ARE moochers.


8 posted on 05/12/2015 8:27:14 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Obama at Poverty Forum on ‘Capitalist Types Who Are Reading Ayn Rand & Think Everybody Are Moochers’

Silly clingers, why would they think such a ridiculous thing? Wasn't there some commie running for POTUS in 08 that kept talking about how he wanted to redistribute other people's money, "spread the wealth around" as he put it? Oh, wait.....

9 posted on 05/12/2015 8:28:47 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Publius; All
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10 posted on 05/12/2015 8:28:53 PM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: SkyDancer
...and think everybody are moochers.

Well, a lot of 'em are.

11 posted on 05/12/2015 8:29:05 PM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: boycott
“The stereotype is that you’ve got folks on the left who just want to pour more money into social programs, and don’t care anything about culture or parenting or family structures, and that’s one stereotype. And then you’ve got cold-hearted, free market, capitalist types who are reading Ayn Rand and think everybody are moochers. And I think the truth is more complicated,” Obama said.

The truth is never complicated you jack wagon.

12 posted on 05/12/2015 8:29:29 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You're a looter. You're married to a Moocher.

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

13 posted on 05/12/2015 8:29:56 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
and think everybody are moochers.

and think everybody is a moocher.

college graduate? What a buffoon! 2nd grade grammar.

14 posted on 05/12/2015 8:31:12 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SkyDancer; Norm Lenhart; onyx; LUV W; TADSLOS; Publius
““I think that there are those on the conservative spectrum who deeply care about the least of these, deeply care about the poor; exhibit that through their churches, through community groups, through philanthropic efforts, but are suspicious of what government can do. And then there are those on the left who I think are in the trenches every day and see how important parenting is and how important family structures are, and the connective tissue that holds communities together and recognize that that contributes to poverty when those structures fray, BUT also believe that government and resources can make a difference in creating an environment in which young people can succeed despite great odds.”

Nothing he says before the word "But" means a damn thing.

15 posted on 05/12/2015 8:31:22 PM PDT by KC_Lion (This Millennial is for Cruz!)
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To: boycott

The rhetoric is being ratcheted up and it scares me as to what he wants to do these last 570 days.

I thought we bought a lot of insurance with the republican landslide.

I didn’t listen to the freepers that knew better. I called them cynical and downers. No. they were just honest. And right.

McConnell, Graham, Corker, Boehner et al go to heck


16 posted on 05/12/2015 8:31:28 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: boycott
being poor. It’s time-consuming. It’s stressful. It’s hard. And so over time, families frayed. Men who could not get jobs left.

Obama says the most ridiculous things -- who feeds him these lines?

Do his scriptwriters really think that Americans won't know that before the "Great Society, poor men did not desert their families. And that only after the Great Society -- they did.

17 posted on 05/12/2015 8:31:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Coming from the biggest psychopath, Klownie the Kenyan propagated every poor to depend on the govt for everything. This jackass has no right to lecture about the victimhood of poverty.


18 posted on 05/12/2015 8:31:47 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: laweeks

Affirmative Action College Graduate


19 posted on 05/12/2015 8:31:54 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

20 posted on 05/12/2015 8:33:17 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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