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To: Prophet2520
He is the ONLY president to have ever eliminated the national debt.

Which lead directly to the Panic of 1837, the first depression in our history.

Jackson was many things, most of them not pleasant. He operated on hate. He hated bankers, so he killed the National Bank, which lead to the depression. He had zero understanding of economics, and zero curiosity on the subject. He ignored the will of congress on the subject and took "Executive Actions" to get his way. Sound Familiar?

On the Cherokee, Jackson's hatred of Indians drove him to ignore both the Supreme Court, but also simple Christian decency.

Jackson as 'Coach' says, was the founder of the Democrat Party in that he was driven by hate and a disregard for either law, tradition, or even common decency. He was as close as we ever got to being a total Dictator.

The Democrat Party keeps Jackson's traditions alive to this day.

7 posted on 10/02/2014 6:31:59 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

“He operated on hate. He hated bankers, so he killed the National Bank, which lead to the depression. He had zero understanding of economics”

If that wasn’t so pathetic it would be laughable. We have a couple of generation of conservatives now who have been tirelessly lamenting what the bankers have done to this country, and how horrible the National debt is. Then you want to jump into a conservative thread and attack the ONLY president to kill the national debt, and to boldly stand AGAINST the bankers, and then to further suggest that the guy that eliminated the national debt and fought what has become the biggest financial nightmare in the world, knew nothing about economics, Wow!

The best thing here is for me to let Jackson explain himself when answering the banksters.

“When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin!

Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out.”

From the original minutes of the Philadelphia bankers sent to meet with President Jackson February 1834,
from Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States (1928) by Stan V. Henkels

Gee I wonder why there was an attempt on his life.


8 posted on 10/03/2014 4:25:14 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: Ditto

“On the Cherokee, Jackson’s hatred of Indians drove him to ignore both the Supreme Court, but also simple Christian decency.”

One further note on the general indian situation in early America.
American Indians were savage torturers of captives. Note, this was not waterboarding to get key information which might saves lives. This was just simply delighting in inhumane brutalism. The Cherokee were only one of the tribes known for this. http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00080546/00001

One torture was to stab tiny slivers of wood into the skin all over the naked body and then light them on fire. But they were creative in coming up with many ways to make people suffer.

By the march of 1838 they had already spent over 200 years torturing and killing explorers, mappers, and settlers, not to mention the thousands of years they spent doing it to each other(inter tribal wars). So don’t even talk about Christian decency in dealing with them.


9 posted on 10/03/2014 5:18:20 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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