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The ugly history of the Democrat Party: Part Six
Coach is Right ^ | 10/01/14 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 10/01/2014 9:01:46 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

The story of the Democrats (available in its entirety free; see details below) continues by exposing Andrew Jackson as the fake he was.

The Trail of Tears

Perhaps the worst instance of Jackson’s willingness to emulate the bellicose traditions of European empires was the genocide of the Cherokee Nation known as the Trail of Tears.

It was carried out under the Indian Removal Act which was championed by Georgia Democrat Senator John Forsyth. Under its provisions the US Army would force the Cherokees to walk from as far away as North Carolina to modern day Oklahoma. The Bataan-like march killed as many as 4000 of the 17,000 who started the three month trek.

The putative justification for the Indian Removal Act and subsequent treaties negotiated between the states and Indians was rooted in the assertion that states had the right to violate federal treaties with foreign governments as America’s Indian tribes were seen even then. [6]

When the United States Supreme Court ruled that Georgia and other individual states could not legally violate existing federal treaties with the Native Americans, Jackson ignored the ruling and with classic Democrat smugness responded, “[Chief Justice] John Marshall has rendered his decision; now let him enforce it.”[7]

Even years later, an anonymous Georgia militiaman who participated in the “roundup” of the Cherokee Indians summed up the Trail of Tears with these words: “I fought through the Civil War and have seen men shot to pieces and slaughtered by thousands, but the Cherokee removal was the cruelest work I ever knew.”[8] The attempt on Andrew Jackson’s life

On January 30, 1835 Andrew Jackson was the target of the first assassination attempt against an American president. On that day an obviously deranged man named Richard Lawrence...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: andrewjackson; battleofneworleans; henryclay; johnmarshall; johnnyhorton; oldhickory; trailoftears

1 posted on 10/01/2014 9:01:46 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Wow is that pathetic. Andrew Jackson is one of the best presidents America has ever had. He is the ONLY president to have ever eliminated the national debt. His prompt strong action and stance also averted the civil war decades earlier.

Most Americans are whole ignorant of the centuries of Indian atrocities. No sympathy there.

Andrew Jackson has really nothing to do with the Democratic party of today.


2 posted on 10/01/2014 9:31:53 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: Prophet2520

The natives committed atrocities because the British did it to them, and then us after we kicked out the British.


3 posted on 10/01/2014 9:56:22 AM PDT by wastedyears (Aldnoah.Zero - Best new anime of 2014.)
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To: wastedyears

Like I said ignorance. Natives continually “drew first blood” in what would be the United States. Columbus’ Catholic Invasion was a whole different ballgame.

First colony in VA destroyed completely.

The first mappers/explorers in New England butchered for no reason.

Look at the causes to the first Indian War in New England,the Pequot war. Peaceful family savagely butchered for no reason. Was the final straw after several other senseless murders were let slide. Settlers still tried to negotiate peace. Then the Indians feigned peace, and then once again slaughtered the very first party of men to venture out. They enticed the party carefully into a trap pretending to be friendly, and the butchered them. These were not brave warriors, but terrorists, slaughtering innocents. Read some original account not revisionist crap.


4 posted on 10/01/2014 10:49:02 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: wastedyears

Oh, so you think the Indians weren’t acting that way before the Europeans arrived.


5 posted on 10/01/2014 12:57:55 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

I’m 28 years old and had a NYC public education.


6 posted on 10/02/2014 4:33:45 PM PDT by wastedyears (Aldnoah.Zero - Best new anime of 2014.)
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To: Prophet2520
He is the ONLY president to have ever eliminated the national debt.

Which lead directly to the Panic of 1837, the first depression in our history.

Jackson was many things, most of them not pleasant. He operated on hate. He hated bankers, so he killed the National Bank, which lead to the depression. He had zero understanding of economics, and zero curiosity on the subject. He ignored the will of congress on the subject and took "Executive Actions" to get his way. Sound Familiar?

On the Cherokee, Jackson's hatred of Indians drove him to ignore both the Supreme Court, but also simple Christian decency.

Jackson as 'Coach' says, was the founder of the Democrat Party in that he was driven by hate and a disregard for either law, tradition, or even common decency. He was as close as we ever got to being a total Dictator.

The Democrat Party keeps Jackson's traditions alive to this day.

7 posted on 10/02/2014 6:31:59 PM PDT by Ditto
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“He operated on hate. He hated bankers, so he killed the National Bank, which lead to the depression. He had zero understanding of economics”

If that wasn’t so pathetic it would be laughable. We have a couple of generation of conservatives now who have been tirelessly lamenting what the bankers have done to this country, and how horrible the National debt is. Then you want to jump into a conservative thread and attack the ONLY president to kill the national debt, and to boldly stand AGAINST the bankers, and then to further suggest that the guy that eliminated the national debt and fought what has become the biggest financial nightmare in the world, knew nothing about economics, Wow!

The best thing here is for me to let Jackson explain himself when answering the banksters.

“When you won, you divided the profits amongst you, and when you lost, you charged it to the bank. You tell me that if I take the deposits from the bank and annul its charter I shall ruin ten thousand families. That may be true, gentlemen, but that is your sin!

Should I let you go on, you will ruin fifty thousand families, and that would be my sin! You are a den of vipers and thieves. I have determined to rout you out, and by the Eternal, (bringing his fist down on the table) I will rout you out.”

From the original minutes of the Philadelphia bankers sent to meet with President Jackson February 1834,
from Andrew Jackson and the Bank of the United States (1928) by Stan V. Henkels

Gee I wonder why there was an attempt on his life.


8 posted on 10/03/2014 4:25:14 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: Ditto

“On the Cherokee, Jackson’s hatred of Indians drove him to ignore both the Supreme Court, but also simple Christian decency.”

One further note on the general indian situation in early America.
American Indians were savage torturers of captives. Note, this was not waterboarding to get key information which might saves lives. This was just simply delighting in inhumane brutalism. The Cherokee were only one of the tribes known for this. http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00080546/00001

One torture was to stab tiny slivers of wood into the skin all over the naked body and then light them on fire. But they were creative in coming up with many ways to make people suffer.

By the march of 1838 they had already spent over 200 years torturing and killing explorers, mappers, and settlers, not to mention the thousands of years they spent doing it to each other(inter tribal wars). So don’t even talk about Christian decency in dealing with them.


9 posted on 10/03/2014 5:18:20 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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To: Prophet2520
The Cherokee were a civilized people by the 1830s. The were not at war with whites. They were Christians. They had schools and churches. They were farmers and lived no differently than their white neighbors.

What Jackson did was just a naked land grab. He did it out of hate. He did most things out of hate.

10 posted on 10/03/2014 6:52:22 AM PDT by Ditto
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“What Jackson did was just a naked land grab. He did it out of hate. He did most things out of hate.”
Jackson’s friend John Walker was half Cherokee. Strange for a hater of Cherokee. John Walker’s son John was part of the negotiation process. The Cherokee National Council threatened to kill those in favor of removal. Sure enough they murdered John later as he was riding his horse. The witness identified two Cherokee. The Cherokee killers did not even deny it at trial but instead said that U.S. did not have the right to try them. You could call that state sanctioned terrorism. They got off lucky. BTW, The Supreme Court in that decision chronicled a long legislative history of that land and ruled that the land had been taken by right of conquest, and that some of the current laws “protecting” the Cherokee were unconstitutional.

BTW it was Thomas Jefferson who had instituted the plans to remove the Indians. The many that left on their own in years previous when told to did so with little problems.


11 posted on 10/03/2014 7:35:42 AM PDT by Prophet2520
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