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To: mandaladon

I’ll point this out because few people ever consider the consequences of this stuff. Let’s say one single district finally disposes of four-hundred poorly performing teachers. Where exactly do you think they will be hired onto next? Bachelors degree....owing $60,000 in student loans, and regarded as a marginal teacher? What industry would suddenly open up some doors to hire someone with an education degree but lousy comments on their ability to teach?

I think this is a massive problem that we are creating, but necessary for the kids. It’s just that I can’t think of any industry willing to take 40,000 teachers from across the nation and give them a job because they are so lousy at what they do.


3 posted on 06/11/2014 7:45:17 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

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5 posted on 06/11/2014 7:50:46 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: pepsionice

Why would we care if they never get another job? Wouldn’t that be their problem?


7 posted on 06/11/2014 7:56:18 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: pepsionice

Why are you worrying about lousy left wing teachers getting fired?

Fire them and hire some new eager to teach young people.

Put the lousy fired teachers on unemployment and welfare EBT cards. That will be cheaper for tax payers instead of paying them close to $100,000 per year with all the benefits.


8 posted on 06/11/2014 7:59:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Herr Obozo will not divert resources from his war on Americans to help our Veterans!)
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To: pepsionice
It’s just that I can’t think of any industry willing to take 40,000 teachers from across the nation and give them a job because they are so lousy at what they do.

Then it's root, hog, or die... they'll get good at something then, because they'll have to. That's how the market works, or how it should work.

9 posted on 06/11/2014 8:02:34 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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To: pepsionice
Where exactly do you think they will be hired onto next?

what does that matter? what does someone do when he loses his job? any number of things... it is not up to society to place them back in positions for which they have degrees... i guess i do not understand what you are getting at...

anyway, i do not get the whole tenure thing for the first 13 years of government education... these are the years when teachers should be conveying facts... teachers do not need protection for their ideas because they should not be instilling their ideas... they should be letting students come to their own conclusions...

11 posted on 06/11/2014 8:13:45 AM PDT by latina4dubya (when i have money i buy books... if i have anything left, i buy 6-inch heels and a bottle of wine...)
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To: pepsionice

If they are poorly performing, it is because they are lazy. That would be an issue in any future job outside of teaching they might wind up in. When I was in school I knew which teacher in my school really tried hard, (and was a good teacher), vs the lazy ones that were there for the paycheck.I had one teacher who made us read a chapter in our textbook during each class, and take the textbook test at the end of each chapter. He never stood up and actually gave a teaching lecture to us. That was laziness.


15 posted on 06/11/2014 8:41:44 AM PDT by kaila
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To: pepsionice
I’ll point this out because few people ever consider the consequences of this stuff. Let’s say one single district finally disposes of four-hundred poorly performing teachers. Where exactly do you think they will be hired onto next? Bachelors degree....owing $60,000 in student loans, and regarded as a marginal teacher? What industry would suddenly open up some doors to hire someone with an education degree but lousy comments on their ability to teach?

I think this is a massive problem that we are creating, but necessary for the kids. It’s just that I can’t think of any industry willing to take 40,000 teachers from across the nation and give them a job because they are so lousy at what they do.


How is that different from say, getting an Engineering degree?

If you are lousy at the work and get fired, it's the same case.

The option is to find a different, easier field to work in.

17 posted on 06/11/2014 9:25:42 AM PDT by az_gila
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To: pepsionice

Perhaps they should consider manual labor.

It’s a problem for them, but they are a problem for us. You have to start somewhere.


19 posted on 06/11/2014 10:14:03 AM PDT by chesley
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