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To: searching123
You seem unable to grasp the ideas behind postings, but in case you at some point can:

Is it your position that our internal security agencies should have listed as subversive anybody whose political views offend you?

Of course not, that's a fiction of your imagination.

I suppose that makes you happy because you think government bureaucrats should be the final arbiter of who is or isn’t considered “subversive” or “un-American” or what ideas or policy proposals in a free society should be verboten??

I have never suggested any such thing, nor would I ever approve of such a wacky idea. You however, thought it and wrote it, projecting your idea onto me.

Is YOUR concern focused exclusively upon “leftists in politics”?

Not at all, but being this is a forum for conservatives to discuss political issues, the topic of "leftists in politics" has been known to come up from time to time.

What do YOU propose be done about “leftists in politics”?

I believe that educating the public about freedom and free markets and the ideas of the founders of our nation, and the cultivation of worthy candidates will lead to a rejection of the bad ideas espoused by the left, and the defeat of "leftists in politics" at the ballot box. That's what I try to do.

Who decides what constitutes a “leftist” idea or proposal?

Whoever is making the distinction, we have a free market for ideas.

Are you proposing yourself as the final arbiter of what is or should be permissible within our political discourse and decision-making?

Of course not. That statement is another strange fiction you have generated.

60 posted on 12/26/2013 2:06:35 PM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

The logic expressed in your previous messages suggests that you are not happy with the criteria used by the FBI or other security entities. Consequently, there is no reason to accept your claims that I am writing “fiction” about your beliefs or values.

If your concern is “leftists” in government or in our society, then just say so.


62 posted on 12/26/2013 3:46:47 PM PST by searching123 (BirchSociety, CleonSkousen, GlennBeck, FBI)
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To: freeandfreezing

With respect to this comment by you:

“I believe that educating the public about freedom and free markets and the ideas of the founders of our nation, and the cultivation of worthy candidates will lead to a rejection of the bad ideas espoused by the left, and the defeat of “leftists in politics” at the ballot box. That’s what I try to do.”

The “founders” of our nation subscribed to many ideas which contemporary Americans are entirely justified in totally rejecting.

For example: the majority of adults in our nation from 1776 into the 1800’s were not eligible to vote.

In addition, our founders had no problem whatsoever with accepting/defending slavery as a legal and moral institution.

One could even make a plausible argument that during our entire history as an independent nation, it has often been “leftists” who first proposed the reforms which we now take for granted as being essential to a free society.

America needs the contributions of all its sons and daughters to assure the survival and well being of our people. No single ideological perspective (right or left) has a monopoly on truth or decency.

Personally, I reject the notion that “leftists” or “rightists” should be the focus of our concern. Historically, Americans are pragmatists. We are more concerned about what works and what produces the greatest good for the greatest number of our people rather than focusing upon the pedigree of the ideas or policy proposals we adopt.


67 posted on 12/26/2013 4:09:06 PM PST by searching123 (BirchSociety, CleonSkousen, GlennBeck, FBI)
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