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To: edge919

No, you’re wrong about the authority of a verification letter. As I said, I am not a lawyer, so I will instead quote from the lawyers who requested the verification (see http://www.scribd.com/doc/96289285/Mississippi-Democratic-Party-Motion-v-Taitz):

The Hawaii Verification, which (a) contains the seal of the Hawaii State Department of Health (an agency of a state of the United States), and (b) was executed via signature and initials by Dr. Onaka, is self-authenticating pursuant to Fed. R. Evid. 902. Moreover, the Hawaii DOH Verification is not subject to the hearsay rule pursuant to Fed. R. Evid. 803 (9). That Dr. Onaka is the Hawaii State Registrar with authority to provide information regarding vital records on file with the Hawaii Department of Health is an undisputed fact.

The Hawaii verification provides official confirmation that the “information” – i.e., each and every vital fact of President Obama’s birth stated in the LFBC posted at whitehouse.gov – is the same information contained in his original LFBC on file with the department. As such, the Hawaii Verification – with under Haw. Rev. Stat. § 338-14.3 (b) “shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and the facts of the event are as stated by the application” – clearly establishes the veracity of the LFBC posted at whitehouse.gov and confirms that no fraud occurred either in the posting of the document on whitehouse.gov or in MDEC Counsel’s submission of a copy of the LFBC as an exhibit in these proceedings. See, e.g., In re Doe, 981 P.2d 723 (Haw. Ct. App. 1999) (”to verify includes to confirm or establish the truth or truthfulness of; to confirm or establish the authenticity of; to authenticate.”) (internal quotations omitted); Amfac, Inc. v. Waikiki Beachcomber Inv. Co., 839 P.2d 10 (Haw. 1992) (”Verification” is defined as “evidence that establishes or confirms... accuracy or truth...” or “the process... required to prove or establish authenticity or validity.” Webster’s Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English Language 1587 (1989). To “verify” means “[t]o prove to be true; to confirm or establish the truth or truthfulness of; to check or test the accuracy or exactness of; to confirm or establish the authenticity of; to authenticate... Black’s Law Dictionary 1561 (6th ed. 1990).”).


179 posted on 01/31/2013 3:21:04 AM PST by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: ConstantSkeptic; All

Tell me exactly how that letter of verification to MDEC would be any different if Obama’s BC at the HDOH was written in crayon on toilet paper 45 years after the birth.

Nobody respond to this guy until he does that. He keeps giving the same blather and we’re all wasting our time. If he wants to say that the verification verifies the existence of something more than a crayon & TP claim 45 years after the fact, then he needs to show what words on this verification would be different if it was a crayon/TP 45-year-late BC.


190 posted on 01/31/2013 9:27:49 AM PST by butterdezillion
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