How the Disintegration is Likely Going to Happen

Barnhardt ^ | Sept. 4, 2012 | Anne Barnhardt

[Nebr FAL owner]

Can you eat those things ? Balance in all things in life .

In other words have good quality items besides reloading supplies like good quality boots/shoes, food/water, heat/light, warm clothes that are well made.

These will do more to aid your life than just having an ammo fort in the basement but the ammo fort will be useful as well.

[Ellendra]

And you better know how to use it, and you better sit your wife down, tell her to cut the sissy, whiny female bullshit and learn how to handle every weapon system in your arsenal.

Is it sad that my mother and I are the gun enthusiasts in our family, and my dad is the one who gets weepy and paranoid about the presence of a gun in the house?

[Ellendra]

Even a ream of copier paper with pens/pencils is irreplaceable.

Just had a thought, in my sewing business I use chalk with a special holder, looks a bit like a beefed-up mechanical pencil. I bet it could be used to hold charcoal pieces for writing with.....

[Ellendra]

Does anyone have suggestions for a tactical shotgun that would also be usable by a wife who does not have a lot of upper body strength but who is not afraid to pull a trigger?

This may fly in the face of the usual advice, but, ignore the stock, focus on the grip.

I'm a small woman, and I had a devil of a time finding a shotgun that I could use. Salespeople kept showing me guns with shorter and shorter stocks, but the stock was not the issue. I've shot guns with stocks that were too long, it's really not a problem. But, if the grip is too big, or if the trigger is set too far from the grip, it's hard to pull the trigger while still maintaining my grip on the gun. Look for one with the trigger set close to the grip. Make sure she can reach it easily. You can even measure her hand, from the web to the pad of her index finger, to get an idea of what size gun would fit her.

[MrIndi]

Thanks Kart!

Good article by Anne, read TM’s piece and agree with the idea of the inner cities starting the riots and spreading to the ‘burbs. Those of us in the sticks, well, if we are prepared, self sustaining, and far enough away from the cities, it will take some time for the MUY mobs to reach us.

[little jeremiah]

Placemark.

[Sarajevo]

You hope this will happen?
You're a nutcase.

[oliviasdad]

You hope this will happen? You're a nutcase.

If Obama is reelected, the only way things are going to change and keep this nation from becoming The United Socialist States of America is a Revolution. I'd rather die fighting than live oppressed.

[Old Sarge]

“Sad” may be the wrong word.

“Disappointing” might be better...

[Bride Of Old Sarge]

I agree on your star-trek quote. I work with many of the receipients of the EBT, it is the people who can’t see a metaphor when it is right in their face. I am scared of when this could happen because of where I work and what I do.

[Sarajevo]

You don’t get it, do you. Amerika is already a socialist country and a police state, and has been since before LBJ’s administration.

[kitchen]

Looking forward, I’m going to suggest a different course. The single most important issue in perceived shotgun recoil is stock design. A poorly fitting stock whacks your cheek and shoulder and makes followup shots slow and timid. If you have a bud that seriously shoots trap ask if he can hook you up with a competent smith to change drop at heel, drop at comb, length of pull, pitch, cast, and the myriad other seemingly insignificant measurements that produce proper fit. Otherwise, find a quality synthetic stock - fiberglass, not Tupperware - that flexes minutely and spreads the recoil pulse. Add a proper stance and you‘re almost there.

Piecing things together, keep the old Holland strategy in mind: half the weight between the hands. We’re not talking about a midpoint balance but rather the polar moment of inertia. You can’t add weight to one end or the other to get the desired result. Properly applied you’ll have a gun that comes alive in your hands and feels and handles as if it were much lighter than it actually is.

Of great importance is ammo compatibility in your group. There is no need to add 20 gauge when everyone else has 12. Stick with 2 ¾ shells. I’d pick a mix of Brenneke slugs and buckshot. Others may have different opinions. I note somebody is again producing beehive rounds. Go figure. Add a field barrel and a mixed case of 6 and 7 ½ shot field loads and you’ve also got a great small game piece.

Shotguns are pointed rather than aimed. Spend some time developing skill at what’s called instinct or point shooting. Take a look around the web for an army field manual from the ‘60s about “quick kill.” It was developed from input of shot gunners, and pistolieros like Atkins. See the target, know where your shot will impact, no sights, point, and bang. Take the sights off an old Red Rider, watch the trajectory of the BB in flight, and pretty soon you‘ll be knocking down aspirin tossed in the air.

Now to the original question. The most reliable fighting shotgun is also the first, the Winchester M97. The ejection port is cavernous and any shell tossed in pointing remotely in the right direction will feed. At one time, because of the exposed hammer, these were very desirable for SASS. Can’t say if they’re still legal, but the M12 is basically the same gun with an internal hammer. Moving forward, the Remington 870 was actually the first firearm that could properly function with interchangeable/standardized parts without gunsmithing. The Mossberg 500 series is their answer, and any of these are not only reliable but robust designs that can take abuse and continue to work. A couple springs, pins, a spare extractor and ejector and your grandkids will be using it for zombie patrol years down the road.

[oliviasdad]

Amerika is already a socialist country and a police state,

PULEEEZE!!! I would think from your screen name, Sarajevo, you would be familiar with Europe; especially places like Poland and other Easter European nations that came under the USSR, back in the day. Don't kid yourself my friend; we ain't seen nothing yet. (Poor grammar there, but you get my drift.)

[Titan Magroyne]

Dang. My normally timid mother was almost to the point of taking one of my guns plus lessons, but my Dad’s negative attitude contributed toward changing her mind. I surely do wish she’d carry. Him as well.

I suspect his manhood was threatened?

Once she got started, I don’t think Mom would hesitate to pull the trigger until the threat ceased or the gun emptied. But I fear Dad would be too tender-hearted.

[Sarajevo]

I would think from your screen name, Sarajevo, you would be familiar with Europe; especially places like Poland and other Easter European nations that came under the USSR, back in the day.

Don't let something like a screen name fool you. I was stationed in Europe for 14 years, and have traveled throughout the European and Asian continents. I have seen and worked in many of those "communist" countries. A couple have more freedoms than an average non-traveled American can imagine.
Yes, Amerika is a police state, and it's getting worse.

[One Name]

Ya- we have cattle, water and woods.

In addition to the other stuff.

[Nailbiter]

bflr

[BonRad]

foxnews Atlanta has withdrawn the beef. Both vid and articles not available.

[TEXOKIE]

bttt