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What would ‘President Romney’ really mean for gun owners?
Monachus Lex ^ | September 2, 2012 | John Pierce

Posted on 09/02/2012 7:56:38 PM PDT by JohnPierce

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To: Darren McCarty

Plenty of worst things can happen. In fact, they’ve already begun. The GOP under a Romney term will do all it can to destroy or marginalize the grass roots Tea Party. Look at what Mittens was willing to do to Sarah Palin even on the eve of the 2008 election. He does NOT respect or even slightly tolerates us. He thinks WE are unreasonable and “frightened” and ‘angry.’ He is an elitist and views us the way elitists do. He only needed us because we control (or we THINK we control) the nomination process for the party... which is a problem he is working on fixing.

Want to hear something creepy? I heard an interview of some old lady, a Paul delegate from Texas on her way to the convention, who was stopped by the TSA because they found bullets in her luggage. Apparently, she was at a hotel, and someone broke into her hotel room, but didn’t take anything. She noticed nothing was missing. She claims that, evidently, whoever broke in must have planted the bullets to delay her getting to the convention.

The Virginia delegates, who were on their way to the convention on a bus to vote against the proposed rule changes, say that the driver of the bus took them on a wild goose chase to purposely make them get there too late to do anything. In the end, they ended up having to walk to the convention.

Speaker Boner, as he was “counting” the yeas and nays for the vote, already had the “the yeas have it” written on his teleprompter before a vote was even given!

Welcome to Mitt Romney’s Republican party.


41 posted on 09/02/2012 9:14:39 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: JohnPierce; TomasUSMC; Elsiejay
Read it and weep. A Democrat Congress and a Democrat President passed it and signed it. A GOP Congress and a GOP President killed it.

You want to campaign for O fine, but do it on the facts, not on a bunch of lies and disinformation

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban (AWB) (or Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act) was a subtitle of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, a federal law in the United States that included a prohibition on the manufacture for civilian use of certain semi-automatic firearms, so called "assault weapons". There was no legal definition of "assault weapons" in the U.S. prior to the law's enactment. The 10-year ban was passed by Congress on September 13, 1994, and was signed into law by President Bill Clinton the same day. The ban only applied to weapons manufactured after the date of the ban's enactment.

The Federal Assault Weapons Ban expired on September 13, 2004, as part of the law's sunset provision. There have been multiple attempts to renew the ban,[1] but no bill has reached the floor for a vote.

42 posted on 09/02/2012 9:17:24 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie

What are you talking about? Where did I say I was voting Democrat? I have NEVER voted Democrat. But that does not mean that I cannot demand better behavior from the GOP candidates does it?

Let me quote from the conclusion of the article ...

“I do believe that a ‘President Romney’ would likely be far better for gun rights than a second-term President Obama ... The potential federal judgeship appointments alone should be enough to get gun owners to offer their support to Governor Romney”


43 posted on 09/02/2012 9:17:53 PM PDT by JohnPierce
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To: JohnPierce

Very well, cling to your emotional ignorance but don’t expect any of us to take you seriously.


44 posted on 09/02/2012 9:19:06 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: entropy12
I will seriously start looking at other countries, probably Australia.

Unlike the United States Australia doesn't let in just anybody. That's why we're over run with illegal aliens with an IQ of 85 and they are not.

You better have a skill that is in very high demand like neurosurgeon or you don't have a chance. If you want to cut and run you better start doing your research now.

45 posted on 09/02/2012 9:19:06 PM PDT by Eaker (Stripping Americans of their freedom and dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Do you even read the replies? No one here is campaigning for Obama. No one is attacking the GOP. I was pointing out the history of questionable gun rights behavior from the nominee.

I will ask again. Is that no longer allowed?


46 posted on 09/02/2012 9:20:33 PM PDT by JohnPierce
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To: MNJohnnie
A GOP Congress and a GOP President killed it.

Bush said he would sign it if it reached his desk so Congress stopped it not Bush.

47 posted on 09/02/2012 9:22:51 PM PDT by Eaker (Stripping Americans of their freedom and dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.)
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To: entropy12

Check out the gun laws in Australia before you consider an intercontinental move. Just as bad as UK there.

Much better move to South Carolina, the state liberals love to hate more than any other. Do you know what we call someone who owns less than one hundred guns?

“Piker”

;^)


48 posted on 09/02/2012 9:23:27 PM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: MNJohnnie

What am I being “emotionally ignorant” about?


49 posted on 09/02/2012 9:24:43 PM PDT by JohnPierce
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To: RaisingCain
The GOP elites under Romney can only do what they are allowed to do. They'll do what they do no matter who wins. The rules change was bad, but doesn't really change much. Primaries and caucuses make the difference.

What we need to do, regardless of who wins, and make sure that we have good people as precinct delegates/captains (whatever it is in your state) and make sure good people are running your county party, district party, and state party, as well as your RNC committeeman and woman. Most importantly, we need to make sure good people win our primary elections and general elections from president down to township trustee.

The bottom line is that we can't just plan for this stuff when there's an election. We need to plan for the party elections after the election back at the time for the filing deadline for precinct delegates. County party committees here are picked in December. District parties and state parties after that.

Know the rules. Know the techniques. Plan ahead. Be organized. Work with allies. Convert swing voters, and make sure the party is in good shape.

50 posted on 09/02/2012 9:27:12 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Holding my nose one more time to get rid of Eric Holder)
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To: RaisingCain

Noob, you are becoming tiresome.

Either vote for Obama and get your a$$ back to DU or help DEFEAT him.

The primary is over, the convention isw over. The ONLY other person who can possibly be sworn in as president next year is Romney.

You have even admitted that you joined this site so recently because you decided that it was “anti Romney” enough for you. Well, guess what hero, you should go back to lurking.


51 posted on 09/02/2012 9:33:20 PM PDT by datura (Democrat = Socialist, Progressive Democrat = Communist)
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To: MNJohnnie

“You want to campaign for O fine, but do it on the facts, not on a bunch of lies and disinformation. . ..”

Campaign for O? Where did that come from?

Have we survived since Sept 2004 w/o a Federal AWB in force? I hadn’t known that, and now I’m frightened.. /sarc/


52 posted on 09/02/2012 9:41:31 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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To: Eaker
Nearly one in four of Australia's 21 million people was born overseas. The number of settlers arriving in Australia from more than 200 countries between July 2008 and June 2009 totalled 158,021. Most were born in New Zealand (16.2 per cent), the United Kingdom (13.6 per cent), India (10.9 per cent), China (10.0 per cent) and South Africa (4.6 per cent).

As you can see from above excerpt from Wiki, 158,021 immigrants entered Australia in just 12 months ending June 2009. I have a hard time believing they were all neuro surgeons or equivalent. In any case I am certain I will qualify. I would not be doing a cut and run. I immigrated to US because it was the most dynamic country. If Obama is re-elected, the country is already beyond resurrection. IMHO it has then successfully socialized to the point of no return for many decades. Once the takers have majority votes, it is the beginning of end.

53 posted on 09/02/2012 9:42:49 PM PDT by entropy12
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To: datura

“Noob, you are becoming tiresome.

Either vote for Obama and get your a$$ back to DU or help DEFEAT him.

The primary is over, the convention isw over. The ONLY other person who can possibly be sworn in as president next year is Romney.

You have even admitted that you joined this site so recently because you decided that it was “anti Romney” enough for you. Well, guess what hero, you should go back to lurking.”


Up yours Datura, you’re not the boss of me. The MittBots who want us to LIE to defend their MESSIAH sure have some arrogance.


54 posted on 09/02/2012 9:43:48 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain
We have no choice.
Obama must go.
If Romney does not win?
It will only convince the political insiders that “conservatives” and “prolifers” and “pro-2nd Amendment” people can not win.

Our country, as we know it, is finished if Obama is reelected.

Grow up and get serious. The time for this stuff was in the primary.

NOW?

OBAMA MUST GO!

55 posted on 09/02/2012 9:47:42 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: JohnPierce

“I do believe that a ‘President Romney’ would likely be far better for gun rights than a second-term President Obama for the reasons laid out in my previous article about President Obama.”

Then why is the author in this article trying to turn conservatives, gun owners against Romney?!!!!!


56 posted on 09/02/2012 9:48:36 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: JohnPierce

Right now the choice is Romney or Obama.

Bashing Romney only helps Obama.


57 posted on 09/02/2012 9:50:00 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Kansas58

“It will only convince the political insiders that “conservatives” and “prolifers” and “pro-2nd Amendment” people can not win.”


How’s that going to work when Mittens isn’t even that? Maybe if Palin got the nomination and lost they could make that argument. Fact is they ALREADY believe it, and that’s why they said Mittens was the most electable.


58 posted on 09/02/2012 9:50:50 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: JohnPierce

Just noticed that YOU actually wrote this article.

You should be ashamed of yourself.


59 posted on 09/02/2012 9:51:54 PM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: entropy12

Looking at your figures I don’t see the US listed. What was the percentage from my country?

It certainly is a cut and run, just not the first time you have done it.


60 posted on 09/02/2012 9:55:23 PM PDT by Eaker (Stripping Americans of their freedom and dignity and rubbing their noses in it is a very bad idea.)
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