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To: pieceofthepuzzle; livius
She’s no magic bullet anymore.

The thing that makes Osama so vulnerable currently is the lack of enthusiasm of his true believers...and others.Having the Former Twelfth Lady as the VP nominee would rekindle that enthusiasm...big time.Many of those who voted for Osama in '08 out of race guilt would now have gender guilt and many others would be excited by the "historic" nature of this new ticket.An Osama/Hillary ticket would win handily.

70 posted on 08/30/2012 4:38:24 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Voter ID Equals "No Representation Without Respiration")
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To: Gay State Conservative

I don’t think so. Hillary has been a weak, lousy SOS who has been publicly dissed by Bambi so many times that her tongue must be bleeding from her biting it. She cd have won last time, but she’s yesterday’s news now and, in addition, anybody who would vote for her now was already going to vote for Obama. She brings nothing new.


87 posted on 08/30/2012 5:12:21 PM PDT by livius
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To: Gay State Conservative
I'm sorry, but I really don't agree. The true Obama believers are still going to vote for him, but they are not enough. Bill Clinton couldn't even garner 50% of the popular vote as an incumbent in 1996, and the economy wasn't in shambles. To win, Obama needed independents and middle-class swing voters. He's going to have a hard time winning those this time around. He's a known commodity at this point, and has a record that is hard to defend with all but the dyed in the wool liberal faithful.

Bill Clinton took a big political hit from Hillary's health care attempts, and she is highly polarizing. Yes, she may still be able to excite some feminists and Clinton Camelot voters, but it would be very hard for her to win at the top of the ticket this year, let alone as a last minute replacement on a ticket that features a guy that many independents have had it with.

I never underestimate the ability of the voting public to gloss over the details and vote as though they were watching American Idol, but I also believe that people vote their best interest, and a large and growing number of people don't believe that Obama is in their best interest.

What would Hillary's message be? We're going to change things from the way they've been done the last 4 years? How's that gonna sit with Obama, and how does that sway people to vote for a ticket that features him at the top? If she says ‘we still have work to do. Let us complete it’, that just tells everyone that she's onboard with a continuation of the Obama approach. Not a very comforting thought for a growing number of people.

In fact, my suggested approach for the Romney campaign if this were to ever happen would be to play exactly that angle. ‘Are we now going to do it Hillary's way? Then why are the democrats running Obama at the top of the ticket? Where was her advice over the past 4 years when the economy was floundering, the debt was increasing, and people were suffering? If she had good advice, and the President didn't listen to her, why will he listen now?’

Just my humble opinion.

96 posted on 08/30/2012 6:06:42 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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