Posted on 02/08/2012 1:32:43 AM PST by Reaganite Republican
Excellent. Great post.
BTTT
another account:
Subject: SEALS REVEAL TRUTH ABOUT BIN LADEN RAID
Osama Bin Laden was killed within 90 seconds of the US Navy Seals
landing in his compound and not after a protracted gun battle,
according to the first account by the men who carried out the raid. The
operation was so clinical that only 12 bullets were fired.
The Seals have spoken out because they were angered at the version
given by politicians, which they see as portraying them as cold-blooded
murderers on a “kill mission”. They were also shocked that President
Barack Obama announced Bin Laden’s death on television the same
evening, rendering useless much of the intelligence they had seized.
Chuck Pfarrer, a former commander of Seal Team 6, which conducted the
operation, has interviewed many of those who took part for a book, Seal
Target Geronimo, to be published in the US this week.
The Seals’ own accounts differ from the White House version, which gave
the impression that Bin Laden was killed at the end of the operation
rather than in its opening seconds. Pfarrer insists Bin Laden would
have been captured had he surrendered.
“There isn’t a politician in the world who could resist trying to take
credit for getting Bin Laden but it devalued the ‘intel’ and gave time
for every other Al-Qaeda leader to scurry to another bolthole,” said
Pfarrer. “The men who did this and their valorous act deserve better.
It’s a pretty shabby way to treat these guys.”
The first hint of the mission came in January last year when the team’s
commanding officer was called to a meeting at the headquarters of joint
special operations command. The meeting was held in a soundproof bunker
three storeys below ground with his boss, Admiral William McRaven, and
a CIA officer.
They told him a walled compound in Pakistan had been under surveillance
for a couple of weeks. They were certain a high-value individual was
inside and needed a plan to present to the president.
It had to be someone important. “So is this Bert or Ernie?” he asked.
The Seals’ nicknames for Bin Laden and his deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri are
a reference to two Muppets in Sesame Street, one tall and thin and the
other short and fat. “We have a voice print,” said the CIA officer,
“and we’re 60% or 70% certain it’s our guy.” McRaven added that a
reconnaissance satellite had measured the target’s shadow. “Over 6ft
tall.”
When McRaven added they would use Ghost Hawk helicopters, the team
leader had no doubt. “These are the most classified, sophisticated
stealth helicopters ever developed,” said Pfarrer. “They are kept in
locked hangars and fly so quiet we call it ‘whisper mode’.”
Over the next couple of months a plan was hatched. A mock-up of the
compound was built at Tall Pines, an army facility in a national forest
somewhere in the eastern US.
Four reconnaissance satellites were placed in orbit over the compound,
sending back video and communications intercepts. A tall figure seen
walking up and down was named “the Pacer”.
Obama gave the go-ahead and Seal Team 6, known as the Jedi, was
deployed to Afghanistan. The White House cancelled plans to provide air
cover using jet fighters, fearing this might endanger relations with
Pakistan.
Sending in the Ghost Hawks without air cover was considered too risky
so the Seals had to use older Stealth Hawks. A Prowler electronic
warfare aircraft from the carrier USS Carl Vinson was used to jam
Pakistan’s radar and create decoy targets.
Operation Neptune’s Spear was initially planned for April 30 but bad
weather delayed it until May 1, a moonless night. The commandos flew on
two Stealth Hawks, codenamed Razor 1 and 2, followed by two Chinooks
five minutes behind, known as “Command Bird” and the “gun platform”. On
board, each Seal was clad in body armour and nightvision goggles and
equipped with laser targets, radios and sawn-off M4 rifles. They were
expecting up to 30 people in the main house, including Bin Laden and
three of his wives, two sons, Khalid and Hamza, his courier, Abu Ahmed
al- Kuwaiti, four bodyguards and a number of children. At 56 minutes
past midnight the compound came into sight and the code “Palm Beach”
signalled three minutes to landing.
Razor 1 hovered above the main house, a three-storey building where Bin
Laden lived on the top floor. Twelve Seals abseiled the 5ft-6ft down
onto the roof and then jumped to a third-floor patio, where they kicked
in the windows and entered.
The first person the Seals encountered was a terrified woman, Bin
Laden’s third wife, Khaira, who ran into the hall. Blinded by a searing
white strobe light they shone at her, she stumbled back. A Seal grabbed
her by the arm and threw her to the floor.
Bin Laden’s bedroom was along a short hall. The door opened; he popped
out and then slammed the door shut. “Geronimo, Geronimo, Geronimo,”
radioed one Seal, meaning “eyes on target”.
At the same time lights came on from the floor below and Bin Laden’s
son Khalid came running up the stairs towards the Seals. He was shot
dead.
Two Seals kicked in Bin Laden’s door. The room, they later recalled,
“smelt like old clothing, like a guest bedroom in a grandmother’s
house”. Inside was the Al-Qaeda leader and his youngest wife, Amal, who
was screaming as he pushed her in front of him.
“No, no, don’t do this!” she shouted as her husband reached across the
king-size bed for his AK-47 assault rifle. The Seals reacted instantly,
firing in the same second. One round thudded into the mattress. The
other, aimed at Bin Laden’s head, grazed Amal in the calf. As his hand
reached for the gun, they each fired again: one shot hit his
breastbone, the other his skull, killing him instantly and blowing out
the back of his head.
Meanwhile Razor 2 was heading for the guesthouse, a low, shoebox-like
building, where Bin Laden’s courier, Kuwaiti, and his brother lived.
As the helicopter neared, a door opened and two figures appeared, one
waving an AK-47. This was Kuwaiti. In the moonless night he could see
nothing and lifted his rifle, spraying bullets wildly.
He did not see the Stealth Hawk. On board someone shouted, “Bust him!”,
and a sniper fired two shots. Kuwaiti was killed, as was the person
behind him, who turned out to be his wife. Also on board were a CIA
agent, a Pakistani- American who would act as interpreter, and
a sniffer dog called Karo, wearing dog body armour and goggles.
Within two minutes the Seals from Razor 2 had cleared the guesthouse
and removed the women and children.
They then ran to the main house and entered from the ground floor,
checking the rooms. One of Bin Laden’s bodyguards was waiting with his
AK-47. The Seals shot him twice and he toppled over.
Five minutes into the operation the command Chinook landed outside the
compound, disgorging the commanding officer and more men. They blasted
through the compound wall and rushed in.
The commander made his way to the third floor, where Bin Laden’s body
lay on the floor face up. Photographs were taken, and the commander
called on his satellite phone to headquarters with the words: “Geronimo
Echo KIA” — Bin Laden enemy killed in action.
“This was the first time the White House knew he was dead and it was
probably 20 minutes into the raid,” said Pfarrer.
A sample of Bin Laden’s DNA was taken and the body was bagged. They
kept his rifle. It is now mounted on the wall of their team room at
their headquarters in Virginia Beach, Virginia, alongside photographs
of a dozen colleagues killed in action in the past 20 years.
At this point things started to go wrong. Razor 1 took off but the top
secret “green unit” that controls the electronics failed. The aircraft
went into a spin and crashed tail-first into the compound..
The Seals were alarmed, thinking it had been shot down, and several
rushed to the wreckage. The crew climbed out, shaken but unharmed.
The commanding officer ordered them to destroy Razor 2, to remove the
green unit, and to smash the avionics. They then laid explosive charges.
They loaded Bin Laden’s body onto the Chinook along with the cache of
intelligence in plastic bin bags and headed toward the USS Carl Vinson.
As they flew off they blew up Razor 2. The whole operation had taken 38
minutes.
The following morning White House officials announced that the
helicopter had crashed as it arrived, forcing the Seals to abandon
plans to enter from the roof. A photograph of the situation room showed
a shocked Hillary Clinton, the secretary of state, with her hand to her
mouth.
Why did they get it so wrong? What they were watching was live video
but it was shot from 20,000ft by a drone circling overhead and relayed
in real time to the White House and Leon Panetta, the CIA director, in
Langley. The Seals were not wearing helmet cameras, and those watching
in Washington had no idea what was happening inside the buildings.
“They don’t understand our terminology, so when someone said the
‘insertion helicopter’ has crashed, they assumed it meant on entry,”
said Pfarrer.
What infuriated the Seals, according to Pfarrer, was the description of
the raid as a kill mission. “I’ve been a Seal for 30 years and I never
heard the words ‘kill mission’,” he said. “It’s a Beltway [Washington
insider’s] ]fantasy word. If it was a kill mission you don’t need Seal
Team 6; you need a box of hand grenades.”
If the DEVGRU Red Team that got Osama actually wore that when they went after Him then they just made the apex of cool that much cooler. Maybe the 1 second pause caused by seeing some ‘skeletons’ rush into a room gave the DEVGRU operators that split second advantage - although it is not as if they would have needed it (apparently the DEVGRU guys go through more ammo during practice than the ENTIRE Marine corps, which is a figure that borders the insane). The only sad thing about all this is that the death of the DEVGRU operators in that helicopter crash (although those were from the Gold team and not the Red team that killed Osama, but still a sad thing since those were brave men who died, and apparently the Gold team is the premier assault team). Amazing men all of them.
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/fauxphotos/ss/Navy-Seals-Picture.htm
The only sad thing about all this is that the death of the DEVGRU operators in that helicopter crash
I think there is at least one FReeper who has not posted since that crash. Coincidence, or did we lose a FReeper?
Yep....
yep, and not a 50 cal. 30 cal at the most
Is that a .50 or .338?
if I remember correctly, that’s a pic of dolls.
not real people and definitely not seal team 6
What is scary about Navy SEALS is just their demeanor, having met a Master Chief in the SEALS at my son graduation from boot camp. The man was a head shorter than me, but the steely-eyed confidence he exuded let me know as I talked to the man that he could make me dead in 2 seconds (on a bad day). The fact that he was introduced as a “Master at Close Courter Combat” only added little to my evaluation of the man.
Obama,our first Muslim President, announced the raid ASAP to destroy the intelligence value on purpose,
Obama is a Muslim, Muslims terrorists like Obama are traitors
these are GI JOE dolls, you morons!!!
Thanks for the link. 12” action figures posed and photographed by an Asian blogger.
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I just happened to see this a few minutes ago as I logged on to my computer. Thought people on this thread might like to see it.
http://news.yahoo.com/navy-seal-commander-advised-hell-media-204338410—abc-news.html
Navy SEAL Commander Advised to ‘Get the Hell Out of the Media’
Excerpt:
A retired general today assailed the commander of the Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden for drawing too much media attention to operations that he argued should be kept under wraps.
Special Operations Commander Adm. Bill McRaven was confronted by retired Lt. Gen. James Vaught, who said he didn’t understand why the recent raids by the Navy SEALs, such as the one to kill Osama bin Laden or to rescue U.S. hostage Jessica Buchanan, were all over the media.
“Since the time when your wonderful team went and drug bin Laden out and got rid of him, and more recently when you went down and rescued the group in Somalia, or wherever the hell they were, they’ve been splashing all of this all over the media,” Vaught, 85, said. “I flat don’t understand that.
“Now back when my special operators extracted Saddam [Hussein] from the hole, we didn’t say one damn word about it,” he continued. “We turned him over to the local commander and told him to claim that his forces drug him out of the hole, and he did so. And we just faded away and kept our mouth shut.
“Now I’m going to tell you, one of these days, if you keep publishing how you do this, the other guy’s going to be there ready for you, and you’re going to fly in and he’s going to shoot down every damn helicopter and kill every one of your SEALs. Now, watch it happen. Mark my words. Get the hell out of the media,” he concluded, as laughter broke out at a meeting of the National Defense Industrial Association in Washington, D.C.
SNIP
Loose Lips Sink Ships
Probably an airsoft gamer bunch. That is a very old picture. Not what its described.
The bolt gun in the persons hands on the right could be 7.62 all the way up to .338 lapua mag. A mcBros bolt 50bmg is a bit bigger.....
Seals best publicity is disinformation an misinformation....
My opinion....stay safe.
LMAO !!!
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