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Who founded Fabian Socialism in the United States?
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Posted on 02/02/2012 9:19:18 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica

Most people don't even know what Fabianism is. Those who do, may think it's limited to Britain. It's not. In The Encyclopedia of Social Reform, By William D. P. Bliss, this is written:(Page 578)

FABIAN SOCIETY, THE (AMERICAN) A movement to establish in America a Fabian Society and carry on a work like that of the Fabian Society in England (see the next article) was commenced in Boston in February, 1895, under the lead of the Rev WDP Bliss.

Doesn't get any clearer than that. It was founded by William Dwight Porter Bliss, in Boston. His Fabian organization in Boston ended up publishing the paper "The American Fabian". They initially had very limited success(see pages 320-322), but Fabians in America would go on to have influence in at least two different Presidential Administrations. Walter Lippmann, who served in Woodrow Wilson's administration, was a Fabian. And Stuart Chase, who was a member of Franklin D Roosevelt's "Brain Trust" was also a Fabian.

As a testament to how successful Fabianism was(and still is) in the United States, it was Stuart Chase who coined the term "The New Deal" in one of his books.

But how did the Fabians have so much success, if they initially met with so much failure? It was the Colleges and "institutions of learning". And the fact that the further they got away from the word "socialism", the more success they had. The Intercollegiate Socialist Society, which was founded by Harry Laidler, (different link) had two important members. Walter Lippmann and Stuart Chase. Chase was also involved in the Fabian's attempt to create a mirror of their London School of Economics(LSE) here in the US, the The Rand School of Social Science.

As a side note,(I know there's a lot of information here, but I hope some of you are following the links and the information bread crumbs) this explains why William Ayers decided to make the classroom the frontline of his revolution. He learned it from his predecessors. Ayers, formerly of the SDS, Students for a Democratic Society. SDS, which split from the League for Industrial Democracy. The League for Industrial Democracy, which is simply the Intercollegiate Socialist Society, renamed.

Another side note, about the League for Industrial Democracy, What is "Industrial Democracy"? Ask Sidney Webb(co-founder of the LSE and original Founding Fabian), who wrote the book on it. At some point, once you learn their language you realize that they are being much more honest than it initially seems.


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1 posted on 02/02/2012 9:19:23 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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To: DuncanWaring; Hemingway's Ghost; bigheadfred; GladesGuru; Art in Idaho; Fiddlstix; FrdmLvr; ...
The Fabian Tortoise and the Fabian Wolf:

Anybody who uses a wolf in sheep's clothing as one of their mascots, I don't think that's a group for me.

2 posted on 02/02/2012 9:21:35 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Think of it as Marxism with a few refinements.


3 posted on 02/02/2012 9:24:50 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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http://www.fabians.org.uk/

The Fabian Society is Britain’s oldest political think tank. Since 1884 the society has played a central role in developing political ideas and public policy on the left. It aims to promote: greater equality of power, wealth and opportunity; the value of collective action and public service; an accountable, tolerant and active democracy; citizenship, liberty and human rights; sustainable development; and multilateral international cooperation.

Why did the sun finally set on the British Empire?
Stuff happens.


4 posted on 02/02/2012 9:29:48 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
The Fabian Window.

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Fabian Window, large size for a closer examination
5 posted on 02/02/2012 9:29:48 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: NormsRevenge

The fabian window hangs in the London school of business where it was dedicated by Tony Blair after a restoration largely funded by George Soros.


6 posted on 02/02/2012 9:32:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Huh, the things you learn on Free Republic. I never knew he was a socialist.


7 posted on 02/02/2012 9:32:56 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica; DuncanWaring; Hemingway's Ghost; bigheadfred; GladesGuru; Art in Idaho; ...
"Fabian Tactics"

Named for Fabius, the general who set up the eventual defeat of Hannibal by Scipio, mainly by hit and run tactics ... mostly run ... and wearing him down by delaying ... and generally leaving him guessing.... tiring the Cathaginians out while rebuilding the Roman Army and digging elephant traps. Fabius believed in avoiding direct confrontation unless absolutely necessary, which he thought a very rare circumstance, indeed!

The Romans were so impressed with the guy's non-fighting, non-confrontational methods they paid him the high Roman accolade of a tricky nickname ... Fabius Cunctator ... Fabius The Delayer.

The Fabians adopted the same philosophy to overturn free capitalism. No direct head-to-head confrontation. Working out very well for them, I'd say.

8 posted on 02/02/2012 9:40:29 AM PST by Kenny Bunk ((So, you're telling me Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out this eligibility stuff?))
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To: Kenny Bunk
Fabius believed in avoiding direct confrontation unless absolutely necessary

In a sense, very much like indoctrinating children that public displays of Christianity are unconstitutional so the children will embark on a multi front crusade to eliminate it while the true drivers remain in the shadows.
9 posted on 02/02/2012 9:48:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Yo-Yo
Actually Fabian was and is not a socialist but he was saved from a much worse fate by his doctor. From his Wikipedia page:
He was drafted but rejected for military service during the Vietnam War. According to USMC Lt. Col. Arthur Eppley, Fabian was declared 4F (unfit for service) after presenting a doctor's note stating that induction into the army could cause him to develop homosexual tendencies.
So there you have it, had Fabian gone into the military who knows what terrible things could have happened.
10 posted on 02/02/2012 10:06:00 AM PST by mc5cents
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To: ProgressingAmerica

thanks for the history lesson


11 posted on 02/02/2012 10:43:07 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Bookmark


12 posted on 02/02/2012 12:14:09 PM PST by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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To: mc5cents
So there you have it, had Fabian gone into the military who knows what terrible things could have happened.

Well, judging by his current wife, Andrea Patrick Forte, he certainly got over it.

Andrea Patrick Forte, CEO/Owner of Patrick Talent Agency.[1] Born February 19, 1961 in Uniontown, Pennsylvania. Andrea launched her career in the entertainment industry as a dancer. In her teen years, her hours of training and dedication paid off and at age 16, she was selected as Miss Dance Pennsylvania. She was crowned Miss Pennsylvania USA in 1980 and Miss West Virginia America in 1983.

Andrea has been featured on the cover of Supermodels Unlimited Most Beautiful Issue in 2006 [2] and was named one of Pittsburgh's 25 Most Beautiful People in 2006 by Pittsburgh Magazine.[3] This former model turned entrepreneur has appeared in Beverly Hills 213, LA Style, Whirl Magazine, Corridor Magazine, Star Magazine, Four Points Magazine & Supermodels Unlimited and appeared in People Magazine with her husband, 50's icon, Fabian in their Most Beautiful Wedding Issue.


13 posted on 02/02/2012 12:32:59 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

bttt for later reading


14 posted on 02/02/2012 1:58:15 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Expel the Occupy White House squatters !!!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
Wasn't Keynes one of their own as well. A society of ivory tower liberals.

But they were very clever where the Bolshevists failed. You can't force collectivism on a people at the point of a gun. Instead you find ways to slowly whittle down a free society, as we have seen done successfully to the US by the fraudulent environmental movement, antipoverty groups, Ford and Rockerfeller foundations, ect...

15 posted on 02/02/2012 1:58:27 PM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: mc5cents
From his Wikipedia page:

Can't just anyone go in and edit a Wiki entry? Or am I mistaken?

16 posted on 02/02/2012 4:17:52 PM PST by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Sam Gamgee; steelyourfaith; Publius6961; Wuli; Kenny Bunk; NormsRevenge; DuncanWaring; ...
As an extension of what I posted yesterday, I also found this information. I just couldn't make it work in context of the earlier posting. Who are the people in the Fabian Window?

(click the picture to make it larger)The people at the top row are well known. On the left operating the bellows to give the fire more air and make it hotter is Edward R Pease, A Fabian founding member and he was their secretary. In the center is Sidney Webb, who is working with George Bernard Shaw on the right to pound on the globe in an effort to re-mould the world. Both of whom were early members. The bottom row is what's much harder to find. If you don't hit the right names while searching, it's largely impossible to find. On the website for the London School for Economics:

The window - is set within an oak frame, giving an overall size of 81 x 76cm. Cited as an example of 'Shavian wit', the figures are in Tudor dress to poke fun at Pease who evidently loved everything medieval. The Fabian Society coat of arms is shown as a wolf in sheep's clothing. The first man, crouching on the left, is HG Wells, cocking a snook at the others. He is followed by the actor-manager Charles Charrington, Aylmer Maude (translator of Tolstoy's War and Peace), G Stirling Taylor (reading a book, New Worlds for Old), and the dentist F Lawson Dodd. The women, from left to right, are Maud Pember Reeves (mother of Amber Reeves, who bore Wells a daughter in 1909), Miss Hankin, the suffragist Miss Mabel Atkinson, Mrs Boyd Dawson, and, at the end, the artist who made the window, Caroline Townshend herself.
http://progressingamerica.blogspot.com/2012/02/who-are-people-in-fabian-window.html
17 posted on 02/03/2012 8:24:41 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (What's the best way to reach a you tube generation? Put it on you tube!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Marxism, Fabianism, Progressives, Nazis, etc - Utopians all.

And all semblence of such philosophies were rejected by our nations founders.

You cannot enshrine enough power in government (even “democratic” government) to create any idea of any Utopia, without that power becoming a tyranny over a people enslaved to it.


18 posted on 02/03/2012 10:51:18 AM PST by Wuli
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