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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
Until this “gentleman” demonstrates, unequivocally his eligibility to hold the office he currently occupies, he must be presumed to be a usurper.

The conspiracy nuts known as "birthers" have repeatedly shown that they will accept nothing as evidence of Obama's eligibility. Every piece of evidence offered becomes more evidence for the conspiracy.

With two valid birth documents produced, along with statements from the State of his birth confirming their legitimacy, Obama's birth is better documented than any President in recent memory.

15 posted on 09/05/2011 7:40:36 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Well written. There are a couple things we can do- 1] ask your congressman what a “natural born citizen” is, and get his answer on tape. They can vote for war, they should clearly demonstrate who is eligible for CIC. 2] attend the Birther Summit.


16 posted on 09/05/2011 8:02:08 AM PDT by kreitzer
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To: Kleon

I am not saying the case of Obama’s ineligibility has no merit- clearly there is something screwy going on in his past that they don’t want us to know about him (hermaphrodyte? Just a hunch). My point is that the overwhelming majority of Americans accept Obama as a natural born citizen of the USA. A much smaller number (almost a majority) think he is worth giving another term to. The evidence for convincing them otherwise for the latter is relatively free at hand (unemployment numbers, gas prices, golf outings, Michelle’s girth - all of which are too higher and getting higher). So let’s fight the battle we can win, with virtually the same result.


17 posted on 09/05/2011 9:03:04 AM PDT by Apparatchik (If you find yourself in a confusing situation, simply laugh knowingly and walk away - Jim Ignatowski)
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To: Kleon
With two valid birth documents produced, along with statements from the State of his birth confirming their legitimacy, Obama's birth is better documented than any President in recent memory.

The problem with your allegation is that Hawaii did not in fact produce anything which they would swear was original.

Till THEY take the leap and declare the document valid, no one else should be expected to regard it with any degree of credibility.

24 posted on 09/06/2011 2:31:58 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Adam Smith and Edmund Burke; Synergistic philosophies.)
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To: Kleon

“With two valid birth documents produced, along with statements from the State of his birth confirming their legitimacy, Obama’s birth is better documented than any President in recent memory.”
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Surely you jest, Obama has shown nothing that would pass any kind of investigation whatsoever. He could not qualify for even the most basic security check. He wouldn’t have a prayer of getting the secret clearance I had to have to enter a Navy electronics school long ago. Your “two valid birth documents” are images on the internet, nothing more.


27 posted on 10/01/2012 5:27:33 AM PDT by RipSawyer ( m)
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To: Kleon
"...With two valid birth documents produced..."

Like this valid one they posted? Funny how you can simply cut out the text I highlighted in red, place it above the line describing the hospital, and the monospaced font isn't matched in its spacing?

I am not a birther. I think it is a losing issue, and the only thing we will get out of this is ensuring that the next candidates that don't have a last name of Obama will be forced to provide proper documentation.

But please. There is no way that document, which I downloaded from their site (which they provided to shut people up) is "valid". I downloaded it, and did this myself using Photoshop to make the comparison. It isn't rocket science.

They get someone to say "oh, they used different typewriters..." or some other such line, and CBS, Media Matters and the DNC say "Ah. Okay, this is now a dead issue" and lots of people shrug their shoulders and say "Well, I guess that is done with".

If they simply came out and said they didn't have a valid birth certificate they could put their hands on, it was lost in a fire or whatever, I might just say, well, that happens.

But this is everything from his birth certificate up to his college transcripts and everything in between.

This isn't the issue that will decisively shed light on doubts about who this guy is, but it is still important nonetheless.

The thing is such a worthless forgery, it is almost as if they did it just to have a laugh, knowing it won't go anywhere.

But that STILL doesn't render it meaningless.

40 posted on 10/01/2012 9:51:57 PM PDT by rlmorel ("It is dangerous to be right in matters where established men are wrong." Voltaire)
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