Romney vs Palin (the need for the early advocacy of the inevitable)

June 20, 2011 | techno

[RINOs suck]

I wonder if your candidate MB is aware that she is only going to be splitting the vote to help Romney once Gov Palin enters the race?

I wonder if Rush was doing the same thing today when he played this Jay Leno joke today:

"Rush Limbaugh has come out with his own brand of iced tea, with a picture of him on horseback dressed as Paul Revere. How confusing is this going to be for Sarah Palin?"

Do you find Rush guilty of blasphemy? Is he working with Mitt Romney to destroy Sarah Palin?

What if Palin decides not to run and people like you destroyed Bachmann's chances and paved the way for Willard to potentially be the nominee?

[RINOs suck]

She either knows and does not care, or else is not smart enough to see this?

Have you considered that Bachmann doesn't know if Palin is entering the race or has been made to believe she isn't?

If Palin is the sort of candidate I think she (and, presumably, you do), why do you think Bachmann's presence would stop her from winning the nomination?

[RINOs suck]

Friend of George? Does that mean you’re aligned with George W. Bush and Karl Rove? I smell establishment! How do we know YOU aren’t someone trying to sabotage Palin’s campaign by making outrageous comments that makes her look bad?

[Friendofgeorge]

I really have nothing more to say to you, other than this...your posts are very suspicious, you come on almost every Palin thread and pick a fight with someone.

Not suggesting you would have to agree with everything I might say, but forgetting about me totally, a quick view of your posting history on Sarah Palin threads is quite suspicious.

You seem to be taking on all sorts of people on Palin threads, forget about me, but other Palin supporters, then you go on to claim that Palin is your first choice, you actually said that to me in the last few days...that Palin was your first choice.

I do not believe that Gov Palin is your choice at all, and that is your right, but do not try to claim she is.

I think we have pretty much covered everything together, nice knowing you :)

[RINOs suck]

I don't take kindly to people that want to use Christianity as a weapon to beat people up with as you attempted to with Bachmann, who is a very sound Christian. That is a perversion of my religion.

Try acting like a Christian if you claim to be one.

[Friendofgeorge]

You claim to be a Palin supporter? You take issue with just about every poster you meet on Palin threads, it`s in your very short posting record.

You said the other day that Palin was your first choice, but you still come on Palin threads and seem to fight/take issue with just about anything positive said about Gov Palin.

You also are ripping Sarah`s daughter...your postings are more than a little suspicious, on top of that you seem to only be in agreement with the other Palin bashers.

Here is one I picked up ...was not quite sure if you bashed Just Bristol here, or Sarah as well, was kind of confusing but I thought rather telling! At any rate it would certainly not be very flattering to Gov Palin.

Bristol Palin puts Arizona house up for rent
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Sarah’s first career was in television

She wasn’t a single mother at the time, either.

It’s irresponsible to bring a kid into the world out-of-wedlock and then take the child along to some worthless reality show.

[Friendofgeorge]

I never said MB was not a Christian!!! I said I hesitated calling her Sister because of her treatment towards Sister Sarah. I think what MB needs is a good fatherly spanking, but I never said she was not a Christian.

I am a sinner saved by grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and am quite sure that MB is also. A fatherly spanking of MB might be appropriate about now...JMHO

She needs to apologize publicly for the attacks on Gov Palin.

[RINOs suck]

I said I hesitated calling her Sister because of her treatment towards Sister Sarah.

Your behavior is far worse than anything she did. She told Ed Rollins to shut and apologize, making her a FAR better Christian than you.

Christians don't kneecap other Christians by spreading false rumors about them.

[RINOs suck]

Yes, I think it irresponsible to take two-year old on reality. I bet Sarah and Todd aren't thrilled about it, either.

[Friendofgeorge]

You never have a kind word to say about Sarah Palin and or her family, we find you on virtually every single Palin thread, fighting with one supporter or another...give it up fella

[Friendofgeorge]

I am not a “good Christian” but only a sinner saved by grace! As the Bible says..our righteousness is like filthy rags to the Lord.

So I will not argue with you on that point, no I am not a good Christian....but the rest of your accusations against me....you are bearing false witness..I never said MB was not a Christian either

Lets just leave it there

Pretty clear you appear on Palin threads and never have a positive remark to make, I suspect the rest are on to you as well.... And you claim Palin is your first choice...LOLOL

[Friendofgeorge]

I am not a “good Christian” but only a sinner saved by grace! As the Bible says..our righteousness is like filthy rags to the Lord.

So I will not argue with you on that point, no I am not a good Christian....but the rest of your accusations against me....you are bearing false witness..I never said MB was not a Christian either

Lets just leave it there

Pretty clear you appear on Palin threads and never have a positive remark to make, I suspect the rest are on to you as well.... And you claim Palin is your first choice...LOLOL

You say that Christians don’t kneecap other Christians, well thats exactly what MB has done to Gov Palin

[CharlesWayneCT]

Not too many freepers get away with writing 6 vanities in a short period of time, even posting to bloggers and personal.

The one important difference between Sarah Palin and Bachmann, Cain, and Santorum, is that we can vote for the last three, because they are actually presidential candidates.

Until Sarah Palin decides to join them, your 6 opinion pieces are a recipe for ensuring Mitt Romneey’s election. Unlike some Palin supporters, I won’t say that is your secret plan.

[RINOs suck]

Pretty clear you appear on Palin threads and never have a positive remark to make,

I have plenty of positive things to say about her, just not those that call themselves Christians and turn around use gutter tactics and lies to discredit other Christian candidates.

[RINOs suck]

You never have a kind word to say about Sarah Palin and or her family

You're a liar and on a witch hunt:

Rove stumps for Bachmann, Kennedy [2006]

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I believe Bachmann is sincere conservative and Christian that thinks she can win Iowa and the nomination.

I also believe Sarah Palin is a better candidate and, if she runs, she will win Iowa. Romney will be lucky to get 20% of the vote in Iowa. Palin has a strong base of support. And, no one gives a better speech or draws a crowd like Sarah.

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[techno]

How many times do I have to repeat this:

If Sarah Palin does NOT run for President, Mitt Romney will be the nominee. It’s as simple that.

[CharlesWayneCT]

You’ve already repeated it 5 more times than you had to.

But you know, you aren’t really helping me dispell the rumor that you are a secret Romney supporter, what with your insistance that he is going to win, and your discouraging all other candidates who are running against him.

[techno]

The poll numbers and Romney’s vast superiority in resources over everybody else in the field is overwhelming:

1)Fundraising and personal wealth

2)Next-in-line meme

3)Dominance among seniors

4)The media is now behind him 100%

5)The GOP establishment is pretty well behind him now

6)A lead of 15 points over anybody else in the field but Palin

I call it like I see it.

And polls of second choices or without Palin in the field show that Romney extends his lead over the second tier under those scenarios. He is really unstoppable unless Palin stops him.

By the way if I were a Rombot, I would not conjecturing about Sarah Palin stopping Mitt. Think about it.

[Friendofgeorge]

this is far past appropriate for this thread, give it up! Aside from a very few selective posts that you used to try and hide behind for cover, you have repeatedly attacked Palin supporters, too many to mention here.

You have attacked Gov Palin`s daughter and Sarah herself, it`s in the record...I am done with you..so give it up, I do not want top hear from yopu again over and out!

[CharlesWayneCT]

But people were called Rombots because they were pushing Michelle Bachmann, who was supposedly an unelectable candidate who would lead to a Romney victory (or was a Romney operative secretly planted in the Tea Party to throw the election to Romney).

And yes, if you thought Palin would never enter, but that the other conservatives would beat Romney, you would tell conservatives to abandon the conservatives in the race, and instead pine for the conservative that isn’t running, so that no one conservative ever got enough traction to beat Romney.

And while you are mostly conjecturing, the scenario I mention is largely what happened in 2008; we pined for a “real conservative”, Fred Thompson, and by the time he entered the race reluctantly it was too late — meanwhile, the longing for a non-running candidate meant conservatives never settled on one of the other candidates — they were all flawed, or couldn’t beat Giuliani. (Yes, it was Giuliani who was leading the race in 2008, not McCain).

So under the 2008 analogy-reality, Sarah Palin is Fred Thompson, Romney is Giuliani, Bachmann/Cain/Santorum are Huckabee/Tancredo/Hunter/Gilmore/Brownback, Paul is still Paul, and McCain is —> Jon Huntsman.

Of course, you would argue that Palin is no Fred Thompson; but I would argue that she might not even enter the race, and holding out for her will kill the other conservatives, all of whom are as good as conservatives as any in the 2008 race.

You of course believe Romney has a lock on the nomination — but I see him as a hopelessly flawed candidate for this cycle, much as Giuliani was. Huntsman therefore is a better fit for the role of John McCain, the candidate who wins with 37% of the vote because Conservatives split their votes after waiting for that “perfect candidate”.