Dr. Ronald Polland: Obama's Two Minute Warning; Factcheck.org Forged Obama's Birth Certificate

obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ^ | 02/22/2010 | ObamaRelease YourRecords

[Fantasywriter]

Lol!

[bluecat6]

There is only 1 way that Obozo is Constitutionally qualified for the office of President of the United States.

If his father is someone other than Barrack H. Obama, Sr, and that person was a U.S. Citizen at the time of Obozo’s birth. It that were the case, it would not matter where he was born because both parents would be U.S. Citizens.

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Technically and legally, he is stuck with Obama Senior as daddy. And there is no practical way to change that.

The 1964 divorce establishes Obama as the birth father. There is a page missing from this set of documents. It is likely the original BC. It is also likely missing due to at least one and possibly up to 3 adoptions that would have resulted in legal redaction of copies of the original BCs. With that divorce decree in place Obama is now and forever the legal father of Obama Junior. Even if DNA test showed otherwise, it would not legally change the situation unless the administrative wheels went into action.

The likely 3 adoptions or guardianship actions were:

1. 1965: Lolo Soetoro - this according to Michelle Obama her self and as established by available Indonesian records. At this point Obama is likely considered an Indonesian Citizen.
2. 1971: Obama Senior claims guardianship of Obama Jr. resulting in termination of Indonesian ciizenship according to Indonesian citizenship laws. The adoption by Lolo Soetoro is reversed resulting loss of guardianship of Obama by Lolo AND Stanley Ann. For a short time, possibly only days, custody is granted to Obama Senior. At this point Obama is Kenyan citizen.
3. 1971: The Dunham grandparents assume guardianship of Obama Junior and possibly legally adopt him. This terminates Obama Senior’s legal guardianship and legal responsibilities. It also makes Obama a naturalized US citizen.

So with up to 3 international guardianship transfers / adoptions the original records were probably sealed somewhere along the way. It is almost certain there are no actual original records that are not under court ordered seal at this point. They were not destroyed, nor did Gov Lingle order them sealed. They are probably sealed as part of the transfer of legal guardianship that must have happened in 1965 or 1966 and again in 1971.

There is no way the Dunhams take responsibility for a young 10 year old Obama without ‘clean paperwork’ for both guardianship and citizenship. It would be like buying a car or a house without a verified title. With their flaky daughter and absentee father they probably wanted it all correct before those left to opposite ends of the world. This is why Obama and Stanley Ann had to hang around Hawaii until it was done before they left for Kenya and Indonesia in early 1972. There was a reason for the entire Dunham/Obama clan to be together in late 1971. It was not to sing some family Christmas carols around the Christmas tree as some released photos would have you believe. It was get Barry/Barack back into a normal American life with his new legal guardians - his grandparents.

[bushpilot1]

[Red Steel]

Lil’ Jameseee ‘needs a hair cut.’ Haha.

And a raccoon song and dance troll. LoL.

[Brown Deer]

§338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

The former Governor, Linda Lingle got it right: “You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact.

Where is that news release? because the one you posted did not say anything at all about what hospital he was born in.

If you believe what Governor Lingle said, then shouldn't she be prosecuted for violating Hawaii State Law?

Since the Governor was never charged with a crime, I don't believe that it was really her that was interviewed.

[bushpilot1]

[Brown Deer]

Technically and legally, he is stuck with Obama Senior as daddy.

That still has not been proven.

[jamese777]

Isn’t it odd that Lingle’s statement is not at all the same as Fukino’s statement? Why can’t any of them they keep their stories straight?

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Perhaps because one statement was a carefully crafted bureaucratic media release probably run by the Department of Health attorneys and the Attorney General’s office to eliminate any possibility of liability and the other was an extemporaneous answer to a radio interview question made ten months later. But I’m just guessing.

[Texas Fossil]

Legal Weasel Words by the State of HI=>

Dr. Chiyome Fukino

-Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

It did not say that there was a birth certificate, it said that there was a "record" of a birth certificate....

That record was most likely a result of a "late filing" by Obozo's grandmother, without presenting a birth certificate. There is no hospital record of his birth in HI (it is very unlikely he was born in HI). There is no record of Barrack H. Obama, Sr. ever living with Stanley Ann Dunham in HI. The only way that Obama could be a Natural Born U.S. Citizen is if Barrack H. Obama, Sr is not his father.

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There is NO long form Birth Certificate for BHO in HI. None... Look at the dance the authorities have been doing to avoid admitting it.

Here is the statement by Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Health Department of the State of Hawaii:

"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."

(note- she said a "natural-born American citizen, NOT natural born United States Citizen.)

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Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Hawaii State Health Director, has issued a second statement Monday, July 27th confirming President Barack Obama was born in Honolulu, HI.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen.

(note- she said a "natural-born American citizen, NOT natural born United States Citizen.)

I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago,” Fukino said, in hopes of ending the controversy surrounding Obama’s citizenship.

Nowhere did she say that she had seen the original "birth certificate"

[Red Steel]

"Thus Justice Miller at the same time as acknowledging the enshrinement of birthright citizenship within the Fourteenth Amendment suggested that it retained a severely limited in scope - not even including those of "citizens or subjects of foreign states"

Well, it's too bad we got some real DUmmies here, like Ms Rogers, who can't or won't see the obvious.

[bushpilot1]

[jamese777]

§338-18 Disclosure of records. (a) To protect the integrity of vital statistics records, to ensure their proper use, and to ensure the efficient and proper administration of the vital statistics system, it shall be unlawful for any person to permit inspection of, or to disclose information contained in vital statistics records, or to copy or issue a copy of all or part of any such record, except as authorized by this part or by rules adopted by the department of health.

The former Governor, Linda Lingle got it right: “You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact.

Where is that news release? because the one you posted did not say anything at all about what hospital he was born in.

If you believe what Governor Lingle said, then shouldn’t she be prosecuted for violating Hawaii State Law?

Since the Governor was never charged with a crime, I don’t believe that it was really her that was interviewed.

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No one has bothered to ask Governor Lingle or Dr. Fukino if they got Obama’s permission to release the statements that they made. If they did, there is no law violation because Obama can release his own information to whomever he chooses, as can any of us.
Also, even if Lingle violated state and federal law (HIPAA) by her disclosure, no one has charged her and Obama hasn’t filed suit against her for the possible unlawful disclosure. Thus it falls into the realm of driving over the speed limit and not getting caught.
You can listen to the interview for yourself on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28W_9feWxBg&NR=1

[Brown Deer]

jamese777 also believes it "was a carefully crafted bureaucratic media release probably run by the Department of Health attorneys and the Attorney General’s office"

I'm glad that she finally figured it out.

[bushpilot1]

[jamese777]

have been following your posts for quite a while and I must say that you never cease to amaze me with your interpretation of this issue.
As a casual observer, I prefer authenticated evidence rather than conjecture.

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Yeah, me too. Conjecture can be fun for internet blog debates but for a court of law, you need authenticated evidence.

And that’s why I am constantly posting the authentification statements of the government officials in Hawaii who are charged with overseeing vital records.
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
Such as “...VERIFYING Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural born American citizen.” Director of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino
And.. “...and that’s just a fact. It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor Linda Lingle (R-HI).

[bushpilot1]

[little jeremiah]

Third book?

[Brown Deer]

Thus it falls into the realm of driving over the speed limit and not getting caught.

No it doesn't, she has already been caught if it really was her.

You can listen to the interview for yourself on youtube.

I've heard it before, it's nothing new. Do you have some sort of proof that it was her?

No one has bothered to ask Governor Lingle or Dr. Fukino if they got Obama’s permission to release the statements that they made.

Really, how do you know that?

Do you actually believe that 0bama would give them permission, but not his close personal friend that he has known since he was in diapers?

[Brown Deer]

I am constantly posting the authentification contradicting & misleading statements of the government officials in Hawaii and jamese777.

[bushpilot1]

Discordant jamese continues to perpetuate lies regarding Vattel's influence on the Founders. It must be obama possessed.