Posted on 12/11/2010 2:58:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
"We're seeing one of the lowest mobility rates in a century," says Nathaniel Karp, chief economist for banking firm BBVA Compass. Karp says the recession has forced many people to stay put because they are unable to sell their homes, cannot find jobs or are unwilling to relocate for work if it means sacrificing a partner's stable position.
The slowdown makes the question of who's moving and why even more significant than in years past. Using 2010 projections by Moody's Economy.com, Forbes ranked the states in which people are leaving faster than they are arriving. Economists report several overlapping trends that may be forcing people out of certain states as much as they are pulling them toward others.
At No.1 on our list, New York is expected to wave goodbye to 49,000 more people than it gains this year. The state has seen a steady loss of residents over the past five years, losing an average of 100,000 people per year. Karp explains that, because New York is a large state, it may report greater movement than others, but notes that population size is not the only reason residents are fleeing.
"In order to move, you need to be able to sell your home," says Karp. "The housing market [in New York] has not gone through the meltdown that other states have gone through."
While New York homeowners may have a slightly easier time selling their homes and moving to greener pastures, a competing trend is the number of unemployed renters who can no longer afford the high cost of living in and around New York City. Karp says the expensive lifestyle and high taxes may force the long-term unemployed to move on to more affordable regions.
The Prairie State came in at No. 2....
(Excerpt) Read more at realestate.yahoo.com ...
Parts of Kansas are beautiful, with great people. If I had to live in a landlocked midwestern state, Kansas would suit me just fine.
The area running west outside Kansas City toward Lawrence and Manhattan, with the hills and the escarpments along the river, is gorgeous especially in the late summer with all the wild sunflowers bobbing in the breeze.
Some cities and suburbs have very decent economies by comparison still, too. It must be western Kansas and the areas right at KC that are losing population.
I was in Kimball..we camped at the lake..my father worked on the minutemen sites. We lived in Rapid City..Cottonwood, SD; Scottsbluff, Kimball to Cheyenne.
Cottonwood was a ghost town. There was a state farm across the highway..rode horses named Commanche and Flash..no saddle. There was a farm pond..the horses liked to swim. There was wooden diving board..I tried to get Commanche to walk on the board..so we could jump into the pond...the board broke and we crashed into the water..
I was in the 7th Grade.
Lost two rod and reels at the lake in Kimball..fish pulled em in..shot many ducks at Scottsbluff on the river.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=%2Fc%2Fa%2F2010%2F12%2F09%2FBABV1GOF7B.DTL
you get this:
Also, over the past few years, more people have left California for other states than have come here, though foreign immigration and natural increases due to births have kept the Golden State's population on an upward trend to 38.8 million, according to the department's annual population estimate released Thursday.
So CA is still gaining population. Not to mention that often people move from CA as they age rather than die there.
The most telling statistic is interstate movement as presented by say U-Haul company. That's the real "follow the money" number.
I’m in Tucson. I wore a light sweater first thing in the morning, have been in a t-shirt since about 9, did all driving today with the windows open. Haven’t seen any snow in person since Easter of 2000 I think it was. We’re kind of over due, usually we get one snowy day every 5 years or so, we had a severe ice day about 4 years ago though so that might count.
Young people leave rural midwestern states for jobs and social opportunities. If you’re not a doper, drunk or a young professional, there’s nothing to hold a young person there. Illegals abound for lower-skilled jobs. Some of these states don’t have great tax rates either.
It’s very American to have confidence in yourself and strike out even if the general economy is bad.
And they all move down south and then bitch and moan about the heat, humidity, mosquitos and "Lack of seasons". Go figure.
“I guess I will stay in Wyoming, where men are men and so are some of the women.”
Not many other people, period. Of any kind.
As pointed out on the article, for a state to get on the list, people have to move away, and to do that they have to be able to sell their houses. Thus the most undesirable states may not have even made the list.
OK where’s Michigan?
I think SD rather than ND has the lowest unemployment since Obama killed the oil boom (so I’ve heard). Yes, the great Midwest has been shedding farm workers for a century, due to advancements in ag productivity, BUT I’m still quite surprised to see ND and NE so high up the list...
Are these raw numbers or percentage of population?
No kidding. When my wife and I moved the family and our business from California to Texas in late 2005, the U-Haul rental rate from Los Angeles to Dallas was three times what it was going the other way.
A couple of years after moving here, I read that 1,350 Americans a DAY move to Texas from other states.
I was born and raised in California, and never saw snow except for rare visits to the mountains during the winter. Now that I'm in North Texas, I see snow every winter.
We even had a white Christmas last year. It was spectacular. First time it had snowed here on Christmas day in over 65 years. Even a lot of elderly native Texans had never seen one here.
I wish 20 million would flee California and return it to the State I grew up in!!!!
And they all move down south and then bitch and moan about the heat, humidity, mosquitos and "Lack of seasons". Go figure.
Heh....I'm from Cali. The migrants from the snowbelt never complain about the lack of seasons there, even though compared to the rest of the country, California doesn't have 'seasons', as such.
'Course, if you're a native Californio, you're tuned in to the state's four seasons, just as much as anyone from harsher climates is. What we call 'winter' probably seems like spring to a lot of folks.
Seriously - us folks from SoCal shiver at 50 degrees.
I’m surprised that Maryland, the Freak State, did not make the list. But then again, all the newly-minted goobermint workers, as well as illegal aliens, are no doubt moving into the Formerly-Free Sanctuary State.
Fixed it for ya.
I don’t get it either.
I was raised there and there is not only an oil boom but an economic boom generally and literally thousands of workers flocking to the state-—in my home area roughnecks are living in trailers, campers, basements, “man-camps” (the oil companies bring in hundreds of prefab “skid-sleds” to accomodate workers), on and on.
You could hypothesize that Forbes is suggesting the boom will taper off but that isn’t the case unless the world economy tanks. My theory would be, as per usual, that Forbes is stuffed to the gills with s—t.
Could you repeat that? I couldn’t hear you over the wind.
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