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Army Birther Seeks Obama School Records
WJZ-TV / The Associated Press ^ | Sep 2, 2010

Posted on 09/02/2010 1:32:21 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: edge919
The Army pursued charges that wouldn’t be directly relevant to Obama’s birth records, however, LTC Lakin’s reason for refusing to follow orders IS relevant to Obama’s birth records.

Obama's birth records might be relevant to Lakin's reason for refusing to follow orders. Unfortunately for Lakin, his reason for refusing to follow orders is irrelevant to the charges against him. Even if Lakin were to prove that Obama is not eligible to serve as President, he would still be just as guilty under military law.

That's why I would be very surprised if the judge granted Lakin's request.
21 posted on 09/02/2010 8:13:31 AM PDT by The Pack Knight (Laugh, and the world laughs with you. Weep, and the world laughs at you.)
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To: The Pack Knight
Even if Lakin were to prove that Obama is not eligible to serve as President, he would still be just as guilty under military law.

Not really. The orders were issued as part of an overall directive from the White House. Lakin's superiors weren't arbitrarily issuing these orders independent of the CinC's strategy on Afghanistan. The affadavit from Gen. McInerny suggests the foundation of all orders is impacted directly by Obama's lack of eligibility.

22 posted on 09/02/2010 8:22:35 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
The Army pursued charges that wouldn’t be directly relevant to Obama’s birth records, however, LTC Lakin’s reason for refusing to follow orders IS relevant to Obama’s birth records.

If past history is any judge Lakin's motivation won't be seen as relevant. The court will be concerned with if he refused to obey the orders of his three superior offices, not why he did it. Officers like Yolanda Huet-Vaughn and Ehren Watada, and enlisted men like Michael New all tried to make their reasons for refusing to obey orders part of their trial and they failed in every case. And the investigating officer for his Article 32 hearing said as much in his report when he denied defense requests for any documentation concerning Obama. Lakin will be tried and convicted without Obama being brought into it. And I suspect the Army will throw the book at him as an example to discourage anyone else who might choose to follow his lead. He could well wind up in Leavenworth.

23 posted on 09/02/2010 9:04:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: edge919
The orders were issued as part of an overall directive from the White House. Lakin's superiors weren't arbitrarily issuing these orders independent of the CinC's strategy on Afghanistan.

Two of the counts charge that Lakin refused to obey the orders of his superior officer to report to the office of his brigade commander. A third count was refusing to obey the order of a superior officer to report for temporary duty with the 101st. Are you saying Obama originated all those orders? Or that the brigade commander cannot order one of his own officers to report to his office? You, and Lakin, will have a difficult if not impossible time proving that at his court martial.

24 posted on 09/02/2010 9:12:25 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Lakin refused his orders because they weren’t based on a lawful foundation. If he’s not allowed to make that case, then he’s being denied due process. It’s one thing if the court disagrees with the conclusion of unlwafulness, but it’s a different thing to deny someone a fair trial.


25 posted on 09/02/2010 9:22:08 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Non-Sequitur

I’ve explained pretty clearly that these orders were issued in support of Obama’s Afghanistan campaign. The temporary duty assignments weren’t for routine, day-to-day operations.


26 posted on 09/02/2010 9:25:15 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
Lakin refused his orders because they weren’t based on a lawful foundation. If he’s not allowed to make that case, then he’s being denied due process.

Lakin will get every chance to try and show in court why the orders of Colonel Roberts and Lieutenant Colonel Judd for Lakin to report to his brigade commanader's oficer were unlawful, as well as why the order of Lieutenant Colonel McHugh to report for duty with the 101st was unlawful as well. He doesn't need any documentation on Obama to for that.

27 posted on 09/02/2010 9:32:09 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: edge919
I’ve explained pretty clearly that these orders were issued in support of Obama’s Afghanistan campaign. The temporary duty assignments weren’t for routine, day-to-day operations.

Order to report to his brigade commander were in support of Obama's Afghanistan campaign? You will have a very hard time making that case in court.

28 posted on 09/02/2010 9:33:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: sodpoodle

“Maj. Nidal Hasan is treated like a hero while Lt.Col Lakin is treated as a traitor.”

Who is treating Hasan like a hero?


29 posted on 09/02/2010 10:01:33 AM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Patriot BUMP!


30 posted on 09/02/2010 10:03:51 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; SunkenCiv; LucyT; little jeremiah; STARWISE; onyx; Sal

Does anyone know when we’ll hear what happened at this hearing?

Is it a rumor, or is it the truth, that Lakin has been confined to a locked psychiatric ward?


31 posted on 09/02/2010 10:22:39 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: Munz; Uncle Chip; seekthetruth; roaddog727; Hoosier-Daddy

Any of you happen to know what happened in court today, and if there is any truth to reports that Lakin has been confined to a locked psych ward????

TIA


32 posted on 09/02/2010 10:28:09 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: El Sordo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Malik_Hasan

Post-shooting
Medical condition
Hasan was initially hospitalized in the intensive care unit at Brooke Army Medical Center at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, Texas, under heavy guard,with his condition described as “stable”.News reports on November 7, 2009, indicated that he was in a coma. On November 9, Brooke Army Medical Center spokesman Dewey Mitchell announced that Hasan had regained consciousness, and been able to talk since he was taken off a ventilator on November 7. On November 13, Hasan’s attorney John Galligan announced that Hasan was paralyzed from the waist down, and will likely not walk again. In mid-December, Galligan indicated that Hasan was moved from intensive care to a private hospital room, yet still remained under guard while recovering. Galligan further stated that doctors said Hasan would need at least two months in the hospital to learn “to care for himself.”

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treated like a hero!!!!!


33 posted on 09/02/2010 10:29:11 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter -God's redemption)
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To: rambo316
I pray for Lt. Col. Lakin. our country is being destroyed by this fraud in the white house and all the felons of all political stripes that have taken part in the conspiracy to destroy America. They all should be charged with Treason.

Amen

34 posted on 09/02/2010 10:36:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies; SatinDoll; hennie pennie
This brings to mind Obama's statement the other day that he couldn't walk around with his birth cert plastered to his forehead.

After a statement like that, it is Obama who should have been locked up in a psych ward.

35 posted on 09/02/2010 10:38:53 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: SatinDoll; sodpoodle; bgill; MarMema

Where did you hear that about Dr. Kate stating that Lakin has been locked up & away in a psychiatric ward?

Is it a MILITARY psych ward? Or is it civilian? WHERE is the psych ward, what hospitial, which city/state??

I am very curious if maybe the MILITARY has temporarily “stashed” Lakin somewhere where they believe that no one can assassinate him.

Thank you, Satin Doll!!


36 posted on 09/02/2010 10:39:32 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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To: edge919
The affadavit from Gen. McInerny suggests the foundation of all orders is impacted directly by Obama's lack of eligibility.

Exactly!!!

The military wants this to be about their orders only -- but their orders are meaningless outside of the chain of command which requires a legal CiC.

37 posted on 09/02/2010 10:45:30 AM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: hennie pennie

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/09/01/the-usurpathon-goes-to-d-c-to-stop-the-treason/

“SHARON: Is that Margaret Hemenway?

DR. KATE: Yes. She’s terrific. She was on Revolution Radio a little while ago, so this will work. We are outraged that he’s being held in the Psychiatric ward of Walter Reed.

SHARON: Is he still working or has he been admitted to the Psychiatric ward?

DR. KATE: I think he was admitted and held there, and I understand from speaking with Margaret yesterday that he is working. So whether they allow him to go home or require him to work and then stay there, I think it’s outrageous. We will find out what the story is and his status.

SHARON: I did not know this.

DR. KATE: I am outraged. He’s one of our heroes.”


38 posted on 09/02/2010 10:49:51 AM PDT by bgill (K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: hennie pennie

No news yet.

I’ll post something if I hear


39 posted on 09/02/2010 10:49:57 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: roaddog727

Thank you roaddog727!!

I really appreciate it, I was expecting there to be several ongoing threads by NOW.

LOL

Cya later, please ping me, okay?


40 posted on 09/02/2010 10:53:39 AM PDT by hennie pennie
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