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Bowling Green Man at Center of Obama Citizenship Controversy (w/Video)
WBKO-TV ^ | June 18, 2010 | Gene Birk

Posted on 06/19/2010 2:43:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The controversy over President Barack Obama's citizenship has flared up again. And this time it involves someone in Bowling Green.

This past Wednesday, World Net Daily published a story on the internet, saying a man who was a grad assistant at Western Kentucky University last semester, claims President Barack Obama was not born in Hawaii.

That man is Tim Adams who was the Senior Elections Clerk for the city and county of Honolulu during the 2008 presidential election.

But Adams says even though Obama may not have been born in Hawaii, he is still a U.S. citizen.

GENE: "So let me understand what you're saying. There is no long-form birth certificate, because he was not born on U.S. soil."

ADAMS: "Correct."

GENE: "But there is a Certification of Birth, which is what this is."

ADAMS: "A facsimile of it has been put online."

GENE: "Yes, and in your opinion, this means regardless of where he was born, he was a U.S. citizen at birth."

ADAMS: "Yes."

And Adams believes racism and political rancor keep stirring up this controversy.

"It's a question of race," says Adams. "They don't like having someone who's not white, or they don't like someone who's from such a different heritage as President Obama, because his family has ties to Africa. His family also has ties to middle America, so to me it's also a non-issue. The other thing is he is a liberal, he's a Democrat. There's a lot of political rancor in the country in the last decade, starting with President Bush, and then we had 9/11. We've had the wars overseas. And this entire fight between the Left and the Right has become so vulcanized that anything someone finds, they say, 'Oh look, he lied about being born inside the United States. There must be something terrible there!' But they're extrapolating something that's not true."

Adams says the solution to the unrest people feel in the U.S today is to "notch down the bitterness... and remember that we are all one nation of people."


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Local News; Politics
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; kenyabelieveit; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue; usurper
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"Why can't we all just get along?"

Just do whatever Dear Leader tells you to do and keep your mouth shut, you racist!

1 posted on 06/19/2010 2:43:37 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"But Adams says even though Obama may not have been born in Hawaii, he is still a U.S. citizen. "

That's not what the Constitution says...sorry.


2 posted on 06/19/2010 2:51:46 PM PDT by FrankR (Standing against tyranny must start somewhere, or the future belongs to the tyrants.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are also a nation based on truth as an essential value.

Liars cannot be tolerated.


3 posted on 06/19/2010 2:54:44 PM PDT by downtownconservative
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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But Adams says even though Obama may not have been born in Hawaii, he is still a U.S. citizen.

GENE: “So let me understand what you’re saying. There is no long-form birth certificate, because he was not born on U.S. soil.”

ADAMS: “Correct.”


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Regardless of where he was born (or hatched) he is not a “natural born citizen” (both parents legally citizens of the U.S.at the time he was born) as the Constitution requires.....

Unless, some one other than Barrack H. Obama, Sr. is his father.

If he was not born in Hawaii, he is not even a U.S. Citizen, unless he has naturalization papers (he does not) or unless his father was a U.S. Citizen (someone other than BH Obama, Sr.)....

....End of discussion.


4 posted on 06/19/2010 2:55:39 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He exposed this without realizing that President requires natural born citizenship and now is trying to patch things up with racism. Is it because the hope crew knows the jig is up?


5 posted on 06/19/2010 2:58:53 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Texas Fossil

Your logic is correct. If we had a constitution, your statements would make sense.


6 posted on 06/19/2010 3:00:57 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Don't you just love it when these condescending A-Wipes lecture everyone to just tone it down?

"Adams says the solution to the unrest people feel in the U.S today is to "notch down the bitterness... and remember that we are all one nation of people."

What a collosal jerk!

7 posted on 06/19/2010 3:03:18 PM PDT by Cuttnhorse ("It is terrible to contemplete how few politicians are hanged." - G.K. Chesterton, 1921)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


What did PT say was born every minute? Oh, yeah, a member of the ObamaNation.
8 posted on 06/19/2010 3:04:31 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (SPEAK UP REPUBLICANS, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU YET! IMPEACH OBAMA!)
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat

Oh! Yes, I forgot.

Welcome to New Kenya! (Africa U.S.A.)

“Where the law of the jungle has replaced the Law of the Land” /sarcasm (sort of)


9 posted on 06/19/2010 3:06:50 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dear Mr Adams,

You may be correct that B.H.O. may be a US citizen due in part to his mother or some other loophole. The question is weather he a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN” as specified in the constitution. Why is that so hard for you to comprehend? Also if your President lied about his birthplace....if there really is no Hawaiian birth certificate....if the COLB is a fake.....does that not cause you have just slight bit of concern? What does Race or Bush or being a Liberal have to do with having a legitimate President? Just askin.


10 posted on 06/19/2010 3:11:56 PM PDT by rwoodward (Lucas Smith)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
ROFL, Pelosi & the democRATic machine vetted him. Just another reason to despise liberal professors who spew propaganda to cover-up the real truth. We're ALL racist now. Doesn't that just make you feel all warm & fuzzy inside? NOT RATs in House Pictures, Images and Photos
11 posted on 06/19/2010 3:12:31 PM PDT by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: LucyT; STARWISE; ASA Vet; InspectorSmith; WhizCodger; El Gato; Red Steel; Uncle Chip; ...
ping...!!!

MUST SEE VIDEO INTERVIEW

This is NOT a replay of the WND interview but a much more detailed and nuanced interview.

Tim Adams says the fact that Obama clearly (to him) doesn't have a long form BC means that it is most likely that he initially received a “born out-of-state” BC.

Adams admits that Obama is not constitutionally eligible, but he says the US Constitution is outdated and unfair to all of the children of single mothers and children with only one citizen parent and that racism is the primary motivation for those going after Obama on that basis.

Adams says that even though Obama wasn't born in HI and was likely born in Kenya, it was the DNC’s responsibility to vet him and they said Obama was eligible, so that is not Obama’s fault and we should just pull together and let that pass.

Adams says that just because Obama may have lied about his birth location, that doesn't mean he is lying about other things.

This guy is NOT a skinhead but a raving liberal and possible self-appointed or undercover Hillary operative who is trying to play himself as completely innocent in his motivations for confirming (well, hearsay) that Obama is not eligible.

12 posted on 06/19/2010 3:23:05 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Adams admits that Obama is not constitutionally eligible, but he says the US Constitution is outdated and unfair to all of the children of single mothers and children with only one citizen parent and that racism is the primary motivation for those going after Obama on that basis.

When someone makes excuses for the bearer of what they perceive as bad news, they often come up with a way to mitigate criticisms to innoculate themselves because of it.

13 posted on 06/19/2010 3:32:07 PM PDT by Red Steel
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'Oh look, he lied about being born inside the United States. There must be something terrible there!'

As if that were't "terrible" all by itself. The lying and the ineligibility, and thus lack of respect for the Constitution.

14 posted on 06/19/2010 3:33:17 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Seizethecarp
Adams says that just because Obama may have lied about his birth location, that doesn't mean he is lying about other things.

Adams is not paying attention to the national news coming out of the White House. Obama is breaking the land speed records for lying and deception.

15 posted on 06/19/2010 3:37:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009


“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle (R)

Janice Okubo of the Hawaii Department of Health quoted by the Washington Independent on July 17, 2009: “Ironically, the ‘birther’ movement began in response to Obama’s own efforts to debunk rumors. One year ago this week, the presidential campaign of then-Sen. Barack Obama launched FightTheSmears.com, a web site designed to push back against false rumors about the first African-American presidential nominee. To push back against rumors that he was not born in Hawaii, the campaign reproduced a Certificate of Live Birth from the state’s Health Department. Instead of terminating the conspiracy theories, that inspired new theories — that the certificate had been forged or that even if it hadn’t been forged it was the sort of certificate that could be given to someone born outside of the United States. But the certificate is specific about Obama’s birth in Honolulu, down to the 7:24 p.m. time.

‘It’s crazy,’ said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. ‘I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.’”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are ‘more like threats,’ explained that the Certificate of Live Birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. ‘If you were born in Bali, for example,’ Okubo explained, ‘you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.’”


Birth announcement for Obama in the Honolulu Star-Bulliten newspaper on August 14, 1961
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg
Birth announcement for Obama appearing in the Honolulu Advertiser newspaper on August 13, 1961:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif

Both newspapers have confirmed that they have always received their birth notices directly from the State Health Bureau and not from family or friends of the newborn. Note the heading for this section of the newspaper in the “Sunday Advertiser,” it says “Health Bureau Statistics”.


16 posted on 06/19/2010 3:40:56 PM PDT by jamese777
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To: LucyT; little jeremiah

Ping to post 12.


17 posted on 06/19/2010 3:41:08 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"this entire fight between the Left and the Right has become so vulcanized that anything someone finds, they say, 'Oh look, he lied about being born inside the United States. There must be something terrible there!' But they're extrapolating something that's not true."

Vulcanized?? That's a process for making rubber, or maybe making Mr. Spock. A colossal genius this guy is not.

18 posted on 06/19/2010 3:45:09 PM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: jamese777
Hey Jamese, you have not seriously answered the questions to who hired you and how you were recruited? I'm still waiting on a serious answer.

Jameesseee77 paid



19 posted on 06/19/2010 3:47:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Hey Jamese, you have not seriously answered the questions to who hired you and how you were recruited? I’m still waiting on a serious answer.


I could share that information with you, RedSteel, but then I’d have to terminate you with extreme prejudice.

We wouldn’t want that.

Let’s just leave it that I am paid. I was recruited through psychic messages in my dreams and I earn $4 per annum although my starting salary was $6 per annum, but I got a pay reduction due to poor performance.


20 posted on 06/19/2010 4:05:27 PM PDT by jamese777
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