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DOH indirectly confirms: Factcheck COLB date filed and certificate number impossible
Butterdezillion | Feb 23, 2010 | Butterdezillion

Posted on 02/23/2010 8:02:16 AM PST by butterdezillion

I've updated my blog to include the e-mail from Janice Okubo confirming that they assign birth certificate numbers in the state registrar's office and the day they do that is the "Date filed by state registrar".

The pertinent portion from Okubo's e-mail:

In regards to the terms “date accepted” and “date filed” on a Hawaii birth certificate, the department has no records that define these terms. Historically, the terms “Date accepted by the State Registrar” and “Date filed by the State Registrar” referred to the date a record was received in a Department of Health office (on the island of O’ahu or on the neighbor islands of Kaua’i, Hawai’i, Maui, Moloka’i, or Lana’i), and the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office located on the island of O’ahu) respectively.

MY SUMMARY: As you can see, Okubo said that the “Date filed by the State Registrar” is the date a file number was placed on a record (only done in the main office).

There are no pre-numbered certificates. A certificate given a certificate number on Aug 8th (Obama’s Factcheck COLB) would not be given a later number than a certificate given a number on Aug 11th (the Nordyke certificates).

There is no way that both the date filed and the certificate number can be correct on the Factcheck COLB. The COLB is thus proven to be a forgery.


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To: parsifal

ROTFLMAO.....

I disagree with your interp. of Wong, but DAAAAAYMN... that was funnier than hell!


1,121 posted on 02/25/2010 7:59:17 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

But he perjured himself in Arizona when he signed a statement saying that he was a natural born US citizen.


1,122 posted on 02/25/2010 7:59:22 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Yep. Just one of many laws the cretin has broken. He makes Bill Clinton look like a cub scout out to get his first merit badge....


1,123 posted on 02/25/2010 8:01:51 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: butterdezillion

I been listening to that kind of stuff since I was a kid in the 60’s. Heck, I’m more scared of Wall Street than I am the commies taking us over.

Do Americans look like they’re cowed BY OBAMA?

parsy, the fearless


1,124 posted on 02/25/2010 8:02:07 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal

You mean that Indiana state case where they punted as in writing obfuscations from their desk so they don’t have to see the NBC issue go to trial on the merits ....that case really doesn’t amount to a hill of beans.


1,125 posted on 02/25/2010 8:02:13 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Danae

OK, I’ll pull it up on another window. So I can read it at my leisure. :-)


1,126 posted on 02/25/2010 8:04:22 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Danae

See, the law CAN be fun!

parsy, who’s got to get a new front wheel on the “His” trike


1,127 posted on 02/25/2010 8:04:55 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: edge919
Errr .. not quite


1,128 posted on 02/25/2010 8:07:45 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: parsifal

LOL

Ok that begs the question... what happened to the first one?

Don’t EVEN go into the extension cord thing...(shudder)


1,129 posted on 02/25/2010 8:07:58 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: parsifal

Can a class of people have standing where any one of them doesn’t individually?

For instance, “Jane Roe” had already had the baby by the time Roe v Wade was decided. But when SCOTUS took the case they took it for a class of people that didn’t even include Jane Roe by the time the case had gone that far. It was basically a class-action suit on behalf of anybody who WOULD have standing - and they justified it by saying that a person shouldn’t be denied rights simply because their “standing” would be gone by the time the judicial gears had gotten far enough to decide the case.

So they totally got around the issue of “standing” by saying they were deciding as a class action on behalf of theoretical people who WOULD be affected.

Can “we, the people” as a class have standing to demand our Constitution be followed, or bankruptcy laws, or Senate rules, or anything where the rule of law is being violated by the government?


1,130 posted on 02/25/2010 8:08:35 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Red Steel

Somehow, I just knew that wasn’t going to light your bulb.

But, you can learn from it now, and try to start helping your fellow Birthers bring the Mother Ship back to Earth, or you can find out in the future after you have wasted years chasing the Elusive Butterfly of False Hopes thru the Cow Pastures of Reality.

parsy, who was feeling poetic


1,131 posted on 02/25/2010 8:08:58 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: Red Steel

You almost have to. The back and forth of what what was what when... its confusing, but THAT is the law as it stood when the cretin was born.

The law has him by the short hairs, regardless of the Hawaiian adoption loophole he used.

I got your number Bambi... we know what you did.


1,132 posted on 02/25/2010 8:10:24 PM PST by Danae (Don't like our Constitution? Try living in a country with out one.)
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To: Danae

Feeding....feeding... I posted that before I read others saying that he using junk from Politico or whatever it is.

The freak is certifiable, like an evil clown. Somehow he reminds me of that Gacey monster. Only weaker.


1,133 posted on 02/25/2010 8:11:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: butterdezillion

I agree with what you say, except that the bad guys aren’t necessarily all in agreement. They don’t all like each other. Sooner or later they’ll start eating each other up.


1,134 posted on 02/25/2010 8:14:03 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: parsifal
Break it down into its component facts.

It's already been broken down into component facts. I don't recall seeing where anybody sought advice nor your opinion on how you think a lawsuit should be filed. You've demonstrated no expertise and poor understanding of some of the things you've cited anyway. Your shtick won't work here.

1,135 posted on 02/25/2010 8:14:25 PM PST by edge919
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To: parsifal

OK, parsy you go girl - I’m now convinced. Keep those ditty doooos coming.


1,136 posted on 02/25/2010 8:15:16 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Danae
The law has him by the short hairs, regardless of the Hawaiian adoption loophole he used.

Hee.

I'll give it the slow and the slower read.... ;-)

1,137 posted on 02/25/2010 8:17:45 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: edge919

Wow .. you’re new here, too, as of today.

FR’s gettin’ suddenly mighty ‘attractive.’
LOL ..

edge919
Since Feb 25, 2010

http://www.freerepublic.com/~edge919/


1,138 posted on 02/25/2010 8:21:31 PM PST by STARWISE (They (LIBS-STILL) think of this WOT as Bush's war, not America's war- Richard Miniter)
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To: butterdezillion

You probably wouldn’t lose the standing argument if you had some evidence. That’s whats missing. I think the courts would bend stuff a little if there was some reason to do so.

The problem is, when they get into the birther stuff, there is just nothing to it. I know you don’t want to hear it, but that’s just the truth. Do you know how we look at the truthers? Or the people who don’t think we actually landed on the Moon?

Then they start off on the “evidence” they have and when you start going thru it, it just kind of evaporates. Yeah, flags do wave in a vacuum. Building do fall down when thier inner skeleton melts.

Well, the sad truth is, the “He wasn’t born in Hawaii” birthers don’t even have truther or no moon-landing level of evidence. Birthers can’t even get it out of the gate before it stumbles and falls.

The “Not an NBC” birthers have it a lot easier. Their arguments are all legal theory, so there is no way to really slap them down until the theory goes ooopsies! And even then, they can argue the Court was wrong. And most people don’t have a clue about cases versus treatises, precedents, etc. And most people who try to explain it are stuffy lawyer types who don’t know how to put things into American.

Look at what I’ve posted tonite. That Indiana case is real easy to read. Wong gets affirmed. The case isn’t binding on any other court but it gives a pretty good clue how the existing law is going to come down. YET, I am having to go uphill against this stupid Vattel and John Jay stuff that any court worth its salt will drop kick out of the courtroom in afew minutes.

Birthers just don’t want to believe what they don’t want to believe. Its human nature. Sometimes, some people will learn and change. Its makes it all worth while.

Here’s the case. You read it. Pages 13 to 18.

http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf

parsy


1,139 posted on 02/25/2010 8:28:05 PM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: parsifal; edge919; mlo; Non-Sequitur; Pilsner; Drew68; curiosity; Sibre Fan; El Sordo; ...

That IS NOT A FACT. THAT IS AN OPINION.

OPINION, huh? What are the FACTS, Parsley?!

FACT:
You and the rest of the After-Birthers are placing your TRUST in Obama’s Eligibility
upon a CNN quote and a letter, both provided BY a PROVEN and CONSISTENT LIAR.


FACT:
You and the rest of the After-Birthers are basing your TRUST on a “birth certificate” that was
given BY partisan hacks from Obama’s Chicago Campaign office TO hand-picked partisan hacks at FactCheck.org
.


FACT:
You and the rest of the After-Birthers are also basing your TRUST
on Obama’s Eligibility as verified by the CORRUPT Nancy Pelosi and the DNC.

dnc-official-certification-of-nomination-sent-to-hawaii


FACT:
You and the rest of the After-Birthers are further basing your TRUST on a "birth certificate"
which has NEVER ONCE actually appeared in Court, to be accepted by a Judge as FACT.


Lots of FACTs there, Parsley. And a lot of "blind faith" by the After-Birthers.


1,140 posted on 02/25/2010 8:40:51 PM PST by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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