[EnderWiggins]

"Therefore, it would seem reasonable (from your statement)that Vattel DID also influence the framers in regards to who is and who is NOT a citizen."

And yet... we find in every case where de Vattel is referenced on issues of sovereignty (look at Syc's list... its got almost 75 examples), citizenship is never mentioned.

So... how intertwined are they? Apparently not so much.

[syc1959]

wiggie;
that because idiots like you, wanted proof that the Founding Fathers used Vattel, there you have it.

Do you have to remind yourself to breathe?
Did your mother have any kids that lived?

Do you suffer from shaken idiot syndrome?