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To: STE=Q
What would the opposite of being born in the united states with two citizen parents -- thus a natural born citizen -- be?

Not being born in the U.S. and obtaining citizenship through a naturalization process.

That means that **ALL** authorities agree that one born in the united states with two citizen parents IS a natural born citizen!

I don't disagree with that.

However "**SOME** authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.

Yes, and you'll note that Chief Justice Waite did not say that those authorities were wrong. Or that they were right. He did not define natural-born citizenship one way or the other.

Now you can "believe" what you want but, unfortunately, the laws of logic tell a different story.

And you will believe what you want, and you can call conclusions logical or illogical to your heart's content. That doesn't make you right.

In any case, your position -- child born in country with a foreign national father -- is the minority view...

You're assuming that it is.

I'm done!

Promise?

607 posted on 01/08/2010 1:44:42 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

I wrote:

“That means that **ALL** authorities agree that one born in the united states with two citizen parents IS a natural born citizen!”

N.S. wrote:

“I don’t disagree with that.”

I wrote:

“**SOME** authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents.”

N.S. wrote:

“Waite did not say that those authorities were wrong...”

___________________________________________________________

I write:

Neither did I!

You MAY be right; You May be wrong.

We don’t really know do we?

Maybe we could flip a coin?

However — as you agreed above:

“ALL** authorities agree that one born in the united states with two citizen parents IS a natural born citizen!”

The anti-birther position as to Natural Born Citizenship — born in country with foreign national father — is debatable; whereas the birther position — born in country with two citizen parents — remains uncontested, as to natural Born status, even by you.

Your view — that an Natural Born citizen may enjoy a foreign national for a father at his/her birth — appears to be the minority one.

In view of the above it would seem that the onus is on YOU to make YOUR case.

Until you DO make a solid case your doubtful position remains — as Chief Justice Waite indicated — in DOUBT!

Good luck!

STE=Q


613 posted on 01/08/2010 2:47:06 PM PST by STE=Q ("It is the duty of the patriot to protect his country from its government" ... Thomas Paine)
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