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It's Time For Illinois GOP To Request That Mark Kirk Bow Out Of U.S. Senate Race
RFFM.org ^ | Sept. 24, 2009 | Daniel T. Zanoza

Posted on 09/24/2009 8:29:28 AM PDT by Daniel T. Zanoza

It's time for the Illinois GOP to request that Mark Kirk bow out of the U.S. Senate race. U.S. Rep. Mark Kirk's bid to obtain the Republican nomination for the U.S. Senate seat to be vacated by Roland Burris in 2010 has, to put it mildly, got off to a rocky start. The 10th District Republican has come under fire, not only from social conservatives, but from fiscal conservatives as well. Kirk's votes on abortion, gun rights and radical environmentalism is contrary to the state and national Republican Party Platforms. Kirk was never going to receive support from pro-family Republicans, who perceive him as an enemy of the pro-family movement. But the negativity directed at Kirk from fiscal conservatives is most telling.

Some believe Kirk's name recognition and the backing of GOP "moderates" would put him over the top in his effort to win the Republican primary. But Kirk, to put it mildly, lost this voting bloc as well with his now well-known misguided "YES" vote on Cap and Trade.

For some reason, the Illinois GOP and a number of influential Republicans voiced early support for Kirk. Perhaps the Party was unaware of the visceral response that ...

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KEYWORDS: capandtrade; illinoisgop; markkirk; markkirktruthfile; rmsp; ussenate
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To: wny

I’m not saying we should vote for ANY RINO, I’m saying Giannoulias is that much of a thief, and as a resident of Illinois him in power and representing the state scares me because of how he would manipulate the existing levers of graft and corruption to insure more democrat majorities and tax money for himself. It’s not helping Pelosi to keep a person like him out of office. Like I said, if you have an option of a candidate WHO CAN WIN (Oberweiss is a three-time loser who lacks the discipline to be a serious candidate for statewide office) then let’s hear it.


21 posted on 09/24/2009 9:33:21 AM PDT by jyoders19
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To: jyoders19

Oh, and I wanted Roskam, too, but he’s said he won’t run for anything but reelection to his house seat. He’s actually endorsed Kirk.


22 posted on 09/24/2009 9:34:04 AM PDT by jyoders19
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To: jyoders19

My dream candidate would be Jim Edgar but he essentially declared his retirement from politics when he decided not to run against Obama.


23 posted on 09/24/2009 9:36:49 AM PDT by jyoders19
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To: jaydee770

“Soooo...Conservatives should vote for this person because he’s the only one who can win?...”

When no electable true conservative will step up and run, yes.


24 posted on 09/24/2009 9:39:45 AM PDT by jyoders19
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To: jyoders19; Cyber Liberty; Lurker
"I’m not saying we should vote for ANY RINO,...if you have an option of a candidate WHO CAN WIN..."

What is worth noting here is that this is Obama's never warmed seat in the Senate. I would tolerate 6 years of Sen Kirk just to see the national headlines that the Daley/Kennedy/Emanuel machine couldn't shove their candidate down the throat of all Illinois' voters!

0bama and Alexi are bassetball buddies from the hood. It would be a very painful defeat that would capitalize on the Blago/Burris debacle and also keep Sen Dick Turban on the defensive for 6 years.

There are hugh political ramifications on this one. I'm series!

25 posted on 09/24/2009 10:11:50 AM PDT by Right_Handed_Writer (Freedom is the virus for which Socialism is the cure.)
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To: jyoders19

Get off your high horse. I said POLITICAL pondscum and that’s exactly what he is. If you’re going to quote...quote what I said...not what you want to THINK I said.


26 posted on 09/24/2009 3:48:16 PM PDT by battletank
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To: jyoders19

“Why should we just give up a golden opportunity to take a seat away from the democrats...”

It’s not taking a seat away from the democrats. Kirk IS a democrat with a fake R by his name.


27 posted on 09/24/2009 3:51:40 PM PDT by battletank
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza

time to ask Kirk to unseal his divorce papers.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 4:25:04 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Daniel T. Zanoza

The Marxists have successfully taken over the Democratic Party and they’re on their way to doing the same to the GOP.


29 posted on 09/24/2009 4:26:59 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: jyoders19; battletank; Dr. Sivana; BillyBoy; Mr. Silverback
jyoders19: As a matter of fact, Lavender Kirk has also not been a reliable vote for war appropriations. Cap 'n' Trade, Abortion, Gay Marriage, Not Reliable on Military Appropriations, lusts for greater tax receipts, sounds like a good approximation of pond scum to me. Have you heard that John F'n Kerry served in Vietnam (for four months or so when his 4th contrived purple ouchie got him his desired ticket home), that George McGovern was a bomber pilot in WW II over Trieste, Tom Harkin's lie that he was a Vietnam fighter pilot (actually a freight pilot), that Jimmuh Peanut graduated the Naval Academy, etc., etc. Military service is generally honorable but, in and of itself, it guarantees nothing as to a candidate for office.

Character and morals and ideology count and Kirk is a failure on each of those scores. I live in Illinois. I will consider him SOLELY on the basis of depriving the Demonrats of an automatic seat in the Senate and possibly of the filibuster-proof majority. If anything Giannoulias may well be a more conservative senator on some issues. Totally corrupt (as Kirk) but marginally more conservative. I don't know that yet. I'll consider him too.

If, as an Illinois voter, I keep hearing a steady drumbeat about Kirk's service in Gulf War I (which I believe had 100 or so Americans killed mostly by friendly fire and almost none in the air), I am going to figure that the facts of his service are all that there is and that may well not be a strong enough incentive to vote for a personally degraded, social revolutionary, high tax-addicted, militarily unreliable lavender queen as my next senator. His election would also strengthen the hand of the cesspool of financial and moral corruption that is the Illinois GOP leadership. Ordinarily, I am among the last to vote third party rather than GOP. I also will not vote (regardless of her opponent) for Judy Baahbaah Toopinka (Kirk's leftist social revolutionary stablemate), the shameless lot lizard and attendee at pervert parades in Chicago for any office whatsoever.

Note that too!

30 posted on 09/24/2009 4:58:22 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: stylin19a

What was his husband’s name???


31 posted on 09/24/2009 4:59:03 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: BlackElk

LOL


32 posted on 09/24/2009 5:12:20 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: jyoders19
but he’s our best hope in Illinois.

Bull! I'd rather see a Dem win than Kirk!

33 posted on 09/24/2009 5:19:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: stylin19a
High Fives!!! I'm also betting that Markie is a catcher... on the House GOP, ummmm, baseball team, of course. Before Mark Foley (Child homolester-FL) was retired by his amazed voters in 2006, Mark Kirk may have been second string or whatever.

On the House GOP football team, Kirk is a natural at wide receiver. They don't let him even try to play tight end.

I suppose that, as a party, we need some to make Mark Sanford, John Ensign and David Vitter look a bit more respectable at least by comparison. At least they know where their body parts go in the natural order of things and, apparently, do not mistake the nether end of the digestive tract for a sexual organ.

34 posted on 09/24/2009 5:25:12 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Uh oh! If we are in agreement with one another, aren’t both of us in trouble?


35 posted on 09/24/2009 5:26:20 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: stylin19a
High Fives!!! I'm also betting that Markie is a catcher... on the House GOP, ummmm, baseball team, of course. Before Mark Foley (Child homolester-FL) was retired by his amazed voters in 2006, Mark Kirk may have been second string or whatever.

On the House GOP football team, Kirk is a natural at wide receiver. They don't let him even try to play tight end.

I suppose that, as a party, we need some to make Mark Sanford, John Ensign and David Vitter look a bit more respectable at least by comparison. At least they know where their body parts go in the natural order of things and, apparently, do not mistake the nether end of the digestive tract for a sexual organ.

36 posted on 09/24/2009 5:31:37 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: jyoders19

2 leftist Democrats in the general election “runoff” is 100% unacceptable.


37 posted on 09/24/2009 8:35:45 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: jyoders19
>> Good to know you believe a Navy reservist who’s fought for his country in Iraq is “pondscum.” Noted. <<


I served my country in a war!! You dare QUESTION my patriotism?

38 posted on 09/24/2009 9:15:18 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: jyoders19; BlackElk; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; rabscuttle385
>> In thinking about the 2010 Election for the United States Senate, suppose you had a choice between Republican Mark Kirk and Democrat Alexi Giannoulias. If the election were held today would you vote for Republican Mark Kirk or Democrat Alexi Giannoulias?
41% Kirk
38% Giannoulias
4% Some other candidate <<

If those are the choices in November, put me down the firmly in the "some other candidate" camp. Kirk and Giannoulias hold identical leftist positions on most major issues, and both are sleazy political hacks who were bankrolled by Tony Rezko and never lifted a finger to do ANYTHING about the "corruption" (which, you know, they're tell you they're adamantly against) that helped advance their political careers.

Most Illinois conservatives are fully aware what a scumbag Giannoulias is. That doesn't mean the IL GOP is going to convince us slimy little backstabbing socialist Kirk is somehow "better". It's unfortunate the IL GOP still hasn't learned the "RINOs are more electable" line is B.S. after their "seriously, electable moderates" Toopinka and Sauerfraud got slaughted in the last two election cycles. Guess they're slow learners cuz they keep shoving RINOs down our throat and have nothing to show for it.

I could also care less how well Kirk is polling. Kirk could very well "win" in a fluke given the current political climate in Illinois (NOT because he runs as Democrat lite, though the mainstream media will CLAIM that's the reason and rub it in our faces). Then what? George Ryan was a "winner" and we know where that got us, don't we? The last decade has shown electing RINOs accomplishes absolutely nothing except for the "pragmatic" types feeling good that someone who happens to have an "R" next to his name got more votes on election day. If the Kirk apologists here want to prove me wrong, feel free to let me know what we gained with Jeffords, Chafee, Specter, Snowe, and Collins elected on "our side". Maybe having an "R" win makes you feel good psychologically that a person with the same party label is a "winner", but the only thing their careers in the Senate accomplished was advancing liberalism in America.

Here's a question for any Kirk supporter lurking on FR to contemplate:

If Kirk "taking back Obama's senate seat" will be such a great accomplishment for "our side", why is it the SAME Chicago liberal media elites who elected Obama in the FIRST place on Kirk's side now?

39 posted on 09/24/2009 9:40:26 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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