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The Theory is Now a Conspiracy And Facts Don’t Lie
canada freepress ^ | September 10, 2009 | JB Williams

Posted on 09/10/2009 8:48:46 AM PDT by opentalk

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To: thouworm; STARWISE
My apologies to STARWISE. Certainly would not slight her if I had known!

I simply had the thread I posted handy.

I'm just happy the info is getting out there.

41 posted on 09/10/2009 10:37:29 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (Better Dead than RED! NEVER AGAIN...Support our Troops! Beware the ENEMEDIA)
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To: opentalk

Thanks, and good work!! This is exactly the type of independent confirmation I wanted to see.

NOW I’m ready to lock ‘n load!! We are the victims of the biggest fraud ever committed and the Democrat Party needs to make amends!!


42 posted on 09/10/2009 10:39:38 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: MHGinTN

They won’t have to submit a corrected document. They will say that they intentionally omitted the clause about Obama being eligible under the Constitution because everyone knows that the SCOTUS hasn’t ruled on the definition of a natural born citizen as it applies to a person born to one American-citizen parent and one foreign-citizen parent.

Obama found another loophole.


43 posted on 09/10/2009 10:52:36 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Just A Nobody

Further clarity

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2335800/posts?page=42#42


44 posted on 09/10/2009 10:54:33 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: opentalk

BTTT


45 posted on 09/10/2009 11:00:20 AM PDT by TXLady
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To: rolling_stone

This article says that the form without the certification is the one on file in all 50 states. Do you have information to the contrary?


46 posted on 09/10/2009 11:00:22 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: null and void
Here is my question, does anyone have a copy of the same document from Bush and Clinton. I want to see if theirs included the Constitution part. If so, then the fact that they removed it from this one is very significant.
47 posted on 09/10/2009 11:03:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This is old news and was gone over probably over a month ago on one or more of the BC threads, I believe (recall?) there were like 5 states without the cert.

Someone posted the one with cert to one or more of the states IIRCC. I will try and look. The states without the cert would be the same ones that had the resident alien Roger Calero on the ticket. In the states that needed a cert or checked citizenship Calero was replaced by another name.


48 posted on 09/10/2009 11:06:25 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: null and void; BP2; Fred Nerks; LucyT; STARWISE; MHGinTN

TY for the ping. Where can we see that same document from Bush and Clinton. Anyone have it?


49 posted on 09/10/2009 11:07:55 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: rolling_stone

http://www.politics1.com/p2008.htm

see calero Socialist Workers Party scroll down for notation


50 posted on 09/10/2009 11:08:12 AM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: mojitojoe
Here's the RNC document to TN:

It SPECIFICALLY states that McCain and Palin do meet the Constitutional requirements for the job.

Why does the simple fact the the ORIGINAL documents said 0bama was Constitutionally qualified AND THEY REMOVED THAT STATEMENT before submitting the documents, not impress you as significant?

51 posted on 09/10/2009 11:17:32 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 232 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: STARWISE

Where can we get a copy of Clinton’s? Each state has one,right? I want to see what the DNC had on Clinton’s.


52 posted on 09/10/2009 11:26:34 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: rarestia

As a matter of covering our bases, however, I’d like to see the paperwork submitted in convention’s of the past. Perhaps this is a standard operating procedure? Let’s not make a storm in a teacup until we know how big is the teacup.
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Thank you and I agree! We don’t need to jump the gun, if we are wrong, it gives the other side things to use against us. It should be easy to get Clinton’s since each state has one on file, correct?


53 posted on 09/10/2009 11:33:10 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: mojitojoe

As I understand it, these were obtained
via an FOIA. The only docs that have
been released that I’ve found are from
AZ .. so someone must’ve gotten that FOIA
approved.

There would have to be 49 others that,
subject to the FOIA request, a judge
could approve for release.


54 posted on 09/10/2009 11:33:10 AM PDT by STARWISE (The Art & Science Institute of Chicago Politics NE Div: now open at the White House)
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To: opentalk

Wow, what a post! A smoking gun may have been found!!!!


55 posted on 09/10/2009 11:34:23 AM PDT by balls
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To: Just A Nobody; STARWISE
did not think it a slight; (doubt STARWISE will either). Two reasons for correcting.

The second is to reinforce just how critical the Freeper research has become. MSM no-news propaganda machine has forced people to get news elsewhere; but, moreover, anything important (to the cause) that breaks on conservative mid-tier news/talk/blogs sources generally has lagged Freeper research by days, weeks, months, etc.

I'm not sure anyone realizes just how important FR has become. The connections are worked out here & the findings (along with source documentation [bec Freepers are attacking their work so professionally] are filtering up the chain to a larger or more visible entities willing to go public with the info. What also happens is that mid-tier sources start the ball rolling & Freepers pick it up, expand & enlarge & connect the dots; then mid-tier sources pick up the ball again and report their breaking news.

This is nothing new on FR, An army of intelligent, pro-active, Constitution-loving citizens have been pooling their collective knowledge and expertise here since the beginning. What is new is how organized Freepers have become and how starved the public is for TRUTH.

Freepers are generally selfless regarding their work. Often, very often, the research is so collaborative it is impossible to distribute credit --- Freepers working as one organism.

But where we can, giving credit where credit is due is just plain just.

Freepers will never know if they saved our country, but they will never forget that they responded when their country sent out an SOS.

And Freeper wit. the best!!!
56 posted on 09/10/2009 11:36:56 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: DustyMoment
This isn't new news. FReepers discovered this a while ago, on the birth certificate threads, I believe. I don't know why they didn't follow up and get a copy of Clinton's and Carter's to compare it with. Bush's too.
I don't understand why some of these news media sources don't get all of their information and evidence before running a story. It drives me crazy because it allows the Marxist and his team to confiscate, scrub and get rid of evidence to back up the evidence that was found. Have they never heard of discretion?
57 posted on 09/10/2009 11:36:59 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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To: opentalk

This is more evidence for the Orly Taitz hearing coming up in January.


58 posted on 09/10/2009 11:37:10 AM PDT by balls
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To: null and void

Someone posted upthread that some states required certification, and some states do not. Therefore there are two forms. Before I get too excited about this...Does anyone know the law regarding this??? Anyone??


59 posted on 09/10/2009 11:37:41 AM PDT by sissyjane
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To: rolling_stone; null and void; STARWISE; BP2; MHGinTN; LucyT; Las Vegas Ron; Fred Nerks; ...

I don’t want to pop everyone’s buble here, but the two different forms were used for different states, some needed the certification, some didn’t.
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Both of those forms are for Colorado. If you state this information, post a link to your source and back up what you say.


60 posted on 09/10/2009 11:41:24 AM PDT by mojitojoe (Socialism is just the last “feel good” step on the path to Communism and its slavery. Lenin)
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