Influx Of Black Students Causes Teachers To Flee

Needs of the Many ^

[AZLiberty]

That's a KIPP myth. KIPP doesn't try to educate everybody, but locates in difficult areas and educates a small minority who really want to learn and have supportive parents. That's not a bad thing, but it's far from a complete solution.

See for example this Slate review of the KIPP book Work Hard. Be Nice.

KIPP (Knowledge is Power Program) is "a national network of free, open-enrollment, college-preparatory public schools with a track record of preparing students in underserved communities for success in college and in life. There are currently 66 KIPP schools in 19 states and the District of Columbia serving over 16,000 students."

The reviewer agrees that KIPP works, but largely through self-selection. Families choose KIPP because they are committed to their kid's education. The same kids, with the same families, would probably have succeeded elsewhere.

The review concludes:

"There's something perversely evasive about KIPP's opening up just one school in Dallas, one school in Albany, N.Y., one school in Oakland, Calif., one school in Charlotte, N.C., one school in Nashville, Tenn., and so on—as if the program recognizes that its best chance at success is to be the exception rather than the rule in any city where it operates. Perhaps this approach made sense in the program's early years, when it needed to build credibility and attract financing. But now it has done both. Until KIPP tries to succeed within an entire, single community, it is, for all its remarkable rise and deserved praise, just another model program that has yet to prove it can succeed with all—or even most—disadvantaged children."

[Costumed Vigilante]

96%+ of blacks voted for Obama.

Do the math.

And the sociology.

[wintertime]

The same kids, with the same families, would probably have succeeded elsewhere.
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The children chosen by lottery to attend KIPP do better than those children who lost the admissions lottery.

[Dilbert San Diego]

As shocking as this might sound, I’ve heard some older black people say that the black kids learned more in the days of inferior segregated schools. And a lot of what they talk about is the behavior and respect for education that existed back then. Back then, the kids and their parents valued education, even though they were attending inferior schools. This whole gang culture/thug culture/baby mama culture didn’t exist back then the way it does now.

[AlaskaErik]

Most teachers are liberals and they live in a world of lies, ignorance and deception. Put some black kids in their classroom and they revert back to the racist origins of their Democratic Party.

[Atom Smasher]

“Most come from single parent homes and have no concept of proper behavior, respect for adults and authority.”

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Very well stated! I said something like this to a group of people the other day, and I was called a racist. The bottom line is, whether black, white, or hispanic, when you are not raised with good social behavior, people aren’t going to want to be around you.

I applaud the teachers for doing what they needed to do. It is their job, their pay, and their sanity they have to look out for. I don’t blame them for wanting to work with students who know how to behave themselves.

You know, I saw something at the Univ. I attend regarding teachers degrees. You can get certain teaching degrees but you have to sign a contract to work in an under served school for so many years, then you can move on to a different school.

[AZLiberty]

Point taken: for kids whose families care enough to sign them up for the KIPP lottery -- an important group -- KIPP is demonstrably better than the available alternatives. Kudos to KIPP.

Can anything be done for the other kids? Is Green Dot, Arne Duncan's current favorite, the solution?

[patriot08]

Thanks for the input. Interesting.

[AZLiberty]

By the way, I certainly hope not. Green Dot sounds too much like boot camp for Obama’s civil army.

[SaraJohnson]

Selective forgetting in the USA Today article. Back then, you may recall, white teachers were targeted by the race baiters as causing black students to fail because they were not able to relate to them and white teachers were said to be inherently racist.

Every conflict; every black quota failure was blamed on “racist white teachers.” The reason for this was to chase out white teachers so they could be replaced by “superior” black teachers. The race pimps were into segregated tribe building, not integration with whitey and surely not interested in excellent teachers.