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To: Marie2
A good Calvinist is always 100% Sola Scriptura.

There is no such thing as a "good" Calvinist. Aren't all Calvinists 'depraved'?

We do not believe we need John Calvin to show us the way of salvation.

You'd never know it by listening to most Calvinists.

We believe the way of salvation has been available to mankind since the Fall.

What happened to double predestination? Is salvation available to all mankind?

We acknowledge Calvin as a good theologian who outlined biblical doctrine in a solid, comprehensible way.

This is a fair statement, but doesn't mean his doctrine is always correct.

We do not view him as infallible...

You'd never know it in reading most of the comments by FR Calvinists.

... nor as any type of savior, just a good pastor.

You don't know if he was a good pastor. We do know he was arrogant, and that is hardly a quality of a good pastor.

24 posted on 06/06/2009 4:09:30 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeaHawkFan

“There is no such thing as a “good” Calvinist. Aren’t all Calvinists ‘depraved’?

Yes, I was just using “good” in a relative way. We are all sinners. Scripture is clear on that.

“What happened to double predestination? Is salvation available to all mankind?”

We believe in the free offer of the gospel. God has commanded us to preach the gospel throughout the world. God knows who He will call out of this world. We don’t. So we do our job - give the gospel, pray for the lost, witness, etc., trusting Him for the outcome.

“You don’t know if he was a good pastor.”

I base that on his apparent great success in winning many souls to Christ, and apparently discipling them well (not perfectly, nor does any pastor). Also, on his writings, which edified and discipled many more than were in his immediate church.

“We do know he was arrogant, and that is hardly a quality of a good pastor.” An arrogant pastor is a terrible thing. But I don’t know why you say Calvin was particularly arrogant.

Do you believe Calvin was a Christian? If not, why not. If so, you should not attack him on such a personal level. We should love one another.


32 posted on 06/06/2009 8:42:52 AM PDT by Marie2 (The second mouse gets the cheese.)
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