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Okay, I'm done cleaning up the vomit from my keyboard but I think mr. Ruder should realize that most of the places that are denying defense attorneys are run by Democrats and that a Democrat is the one shilling bailouts to the banks.

I said it before on another forum I'll say it again. THe Democrats want to shoot down one constitutional amendment, IE: the 2nd amendment, they will go after all the other ones in addition to that.

Thanks a whole lot Obama.

1 posted on 04/26/2009 12:38:08 PM PDT by mainestategop
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In my opinion, the problem comes about when a person feels all powerful. When on party appears to lose all power, the other party starts getting wierd. that wierdness usually results in the other party making a comeback...EN FORCE. The examples where it doesn’t, is like when the nazis took over germany.


2 posted on 04/26/2009 12:43:46 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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The task force trolled through predominantly African American neighborhoods, rounding up people who had outstanding court fines.

According to an old fishing magazine I use to read, 90% of the fish are in 10% of the water. I'll bet the poverty demographics had more to do with outstanding court fines than the race of the people in the neighborhood, but that would not fit into the author's agenda.

But, a judge in McHenry County, Illinois, recently threw some guy in jail because he did not pay his lawyer's fee. Not exactly a poor neighborhood., but I guess the judge wanted to prove a point. The idea of lawyers taking care of each other is pretty sad, but this case was blatant.

3 posted on 04/26/2009 12:49:08 PM PDT by Bernard (If you always tell the truth, you never have to remember exactly what you said.)
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These are over the top anecdotes and the ACLU and Southern Poverty Law Center are on the right side for a change. More common, however, are the court ordered mandates for men to fork over alimony and child support for far more than they can reasonable afford or pay. A boyhood friend of mine is in this situation and has disappeared and apparently changed his identity. I still get calls from time to time asking about his whereabouts. The system left him with no alternative.


4 posted on 04/26/2009 12:53:34 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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they will go after all the other ones

There mostly gone already:

Here's a short list I posted the other day,

1. Free speech - campaign finance reform

2 Gun rights - gun control

3. I actually wouldn’t mind having soldiers at the house, though to be fair they’ve never made me.

4. Search and Seizure - Income tax returns, IRS and Swiss bank accounts

5. Compensation - they aren’t planning to pay you for confiscated guns.

5 posted on 04/26/2009 12:53:44 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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In 2006, the Southern Center for Human Rights (SCHR) filed a suit on behalf of Ora Lee Hurley, who couldn’t get out of prison until she had enough money to pay a $705 fine.

Now I have seen ads for "exotic dancers" with that name, Anyone smell a scam?

6 posted on 04/26/2009 1:02:56 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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Goebel set the original amount of $104 a month to be paid by Nowlin was based upon financial information provided by Nowlin to the Delta County Friend of the Court. Staff members in that office, using state child support guidelines, presented the $104 per month as being a reasonable amount she would be able to pay.

Nowlin contacted the ACLU of Michigan, according to ACLU legal director Michael Steinberg, after her request for a court-appointed attorney was denied by Goebel during the March 3 hearing.

The $104 is just a partial payment. The state incurs a cost of $308.39 per day for treating a juvenile at its facility in Escanaba. The monthly cost incurred for one juvenile held at the facility for one month is $ 9,560.

"Here is a woman who was laid off in December, and later, working part-time for $7.90 an hour, in addition to working odd jobs to make ends meet," he said.

Numinen said Nowlin had provided the court with a financial affidavit indicating she had been working part-time in March.

"When filing the affidavit, she may have overstated the amount she was being paid per hour. However, there was a note attached to the affidavit indicating that was what she thought she was being paid," said Numinen.

After hearing Nowlin's testimony, Goebel said the court had extensive involvement with Nowlin and her son, and several attempts had been made by the court to prevent her 15-year old son from ending up at Bay Pines.

According to Goebel, Nowlin's son had an extensive juvenile criminal record with charges ranging from assault and battery to second degree criminal sexual conduct.

"When your son was first placed in juvenile diversion, there was a notion indicating you were concerned about your son heading down the wrong path."

Goebel added a notation in the file indicated Nowlin would be present for all appointments and would be involved fully with the juvenile diversion program along with her son.

"The last appointment which you attended, according to our records, was Oct. 12, 2008," said Goebel.

More Here

7 posted on 04/26/2009 1:04:09 PM PDT by kcvl
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According to Delta County Sheriff Gary Ballweg, Nowlin is allowed work release privileges.

9 posted on 04/26/2009 1:06:51 PM PDT by kcvl
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Somethow the media can’t find it in their hearts to interest themselves in this story.

They are too busy investigating stories of foreclosures and “corporate greed.”


10 posted on 04/26/2009 1:08:27 PM PDT by denydenydeny ("I'm sure this goes against everything you've been taught, but right and wrong do exist"-Dr House)
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Escanaba resident, Edwina Nowlin, says she had been laid off from work and had practically no money.

13 posted on 04/26/2009 1:10:08 PM PDT by kcvl
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The solution: Change your last name to Garcia or Lopez and learn to speak Spanish. They’ll think you are an illegal and will ignore you unless you actually drive while intoxicated, in which case, they’ll let you bond out so you can disappear.

There IS a duality of justice but it has more to do with Country of Origin than it does with poverty or color.


28 posted on 04/26/2009 7:00:40 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (The Constitution & Bill of Rights stand as a whole. Remove any part & nullify the whole.)
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I can't believe that nobody has brought up an obvious fact of this case.

GUILTY.

31 posted on 04/29/2009 12:27:37 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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