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To: Michael Eden

Forget the significance of Hitler — FDR pandered enough to Stalin in his socialist blindness and faux reality. It drove Churchill crazy, as it should have, when Churchill KNEW what Stalin was all about. I think FDR realized what and who Stalin was, and liked alot of his socialism and control. FDR certainly had enough communist friends.

Darn, this sure sounds familiar. Deja vu....God help us.


4 posted on 03/10/2009 3:57:33 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA
Forget the significance of Hitler — FDR pandered enough to Stalin in his socialist blindness and faux reality. It drove Churchill crazy, as it should have, when Churchill KNEW what Stalin was all about. I think FDR realized what and who Stalin was, and liked alot of his socialism and control. FDR certainly had enough communist friends. Darn, this sure sounds familiar. Deja vu....God help us.

Ah, a fellow lover of history!

You raise some valid points, which I agree with, but chose to avoid for purposes of clarity. FDR himself came out of a VERY fascist government philosophy.

From "Liberal Fascism," page 11, with supporting footnote: Even more telling, FDR's defenders openly admitted their admiration of fascism. Rexford Guy Tugwell, an influential member of FDR's Brain Trust, said of Italian Fascism, "It's the cleanest, neatest most efficiently operationg piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious." "We are trying out the economics of Fascism without having suffered all its social or political ravages," proclaimed the New Republic's editor George Soule, an enthusiastic supporter of the FDR administration. [Wolfgang Schivelbusch, Three New Deals: Reflections on Roosevelt's America, Mussolini's Italy, and Hitler's Germany, 1933-1939, 2006, p. 32, 29]

And FDR most certainly DID dally with Stalin in a way that drove Churchill nuts, as you point out.

Still, once war was on, FDR at least didn't seek to "reach out" and "comprimise" with the Nazis.

9 posted on 03/10/2009 4:18:27 PM PDT by Michael Eden
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