Posted on 02/28/2009 3:29:25 PM PST by John Semmens
The so-called “freedom of conscience rule” promulgated by the Bush Administration in its last few months will be rescinded by the Obama Administration within the next month or two according to an unnamed official. The Bush rule permits medical personnel to decline to perform abortions if they believe that to do so would be unethical, immoral, or in violation of their religious beliefs.
“As President Obama has said, the job of these doctors, nurses, etc. is to serve their patients, not to assert any moral misgivings and use that as a reason to refuse service,” the official asserted. “The argument that patients are free to seek out providers without such moral scruples is repugnant. It allows health workers to place their own value judgments ahead of those our society has chosen through the electoral process. Even worse, it stigmatizes innocent women. It’s like these doctors and nurses are saying a woman’s decision to end her pregnancy is somehow ‘wrong.’”
The official went on to describe the Bush approach as a “pathway to moral anarchy. We can’t have the social cohesion the Obama Administration is trying to achieve if just anyone is free to set his or her own moral boundaries. We’ve all got to be on the same page here. The only way to ensure that is for everyone to follow the guidance provided by their elected leaders. If someone doesn’t like this guidance they can vote for different leaders at the next election. Meanwhile, they should be supporting the team that’s in there now rather than complaining about it.”
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Bari the Kenyan is a baby killer.
Talk about useful idiots.
And never forget -- if it weren't for so-called "true conservatives" voting for liberal Bob Barr in North Carolina, that state would have never swung to Hussein. Whiners said the GOP needed to do something to earn their support, and the GOP gave them Sarah Palin -- who is both more conservative AND more libertarian than Barr has ever been. They opted to let the marxist Obama win anyway.
Now that Kathleen Sibelius is to be nominated to be HHS Secretary, any physician who cannot provide proof that they have killed a baby will likely lose their license.
OK, OK, a little bit of hyperbole, but not much.
One thing about my Church we have been around the block with the Marxists, anyway about a week ago I was reading Scripture and the question was raised about Civil Disobedience meaning that there are times when you simply have to disobey the Civil Authorities. In my humble opinion this is one of them. What happens if medical personnel refuse to perform an abortion?
...I thought that Constitution thingie said that we have the right to practice our religion. Or does someone’s “want” to have an abortion trump that Right?
And what kind of law would force people to do immoral things? A bad one, surely.
Question: How was McCain a better choice? Honestly.
Expect the end of all Catholic health services and charities, thats about 300 billion dollars, in health service.
I bet this is just a grab to get more state control over these programs.
Because of the 10th Amendment, all federal laws that mention abortion should be repealed. Each state legislature should pass a bill which would state that each abortion is a homicide, unless it is performed to save the mother’s life.
This is weird from both perspectives, who would want an attending Physician with a gun held to his/her head?
This country doesn’t have enough problems retaining obstetricians and gynocologists as it is?
My niece is studying to be a nurse. In the 7th grade she wrote a piece on why she thought abortion was intolerable. She won a prize for it. I wonder how she is going to feel about this administration’s position on healthcare providers being forced to perform and assist at abortions?
She didn’t vote for Obama either.
This is satire, right? Not far from the truth, however.
What about the Hippocratic Oath! Abortion is a no-no in that ancient manuscript!
Do doctors even take the Hippocratic Oath today? It would be interesting to find out. Bet they don’t.
Question: You actually think McCain would be issuing executive orders bringing back Clinton era overseas abortion funding, and rescinding the freedom of conscience rule, as Obama is doing? Honestly?
I suppose we could pretend McCain would suddenly abandon his 30 year pro-life record and become an infanticide loving marxist just like Obama, and Sarah Palin would happily go along with it as well, but we both know the odds of that happening were about 10,000,000,000,000 to 1.
I find it hard to believe any honest conservative would argue there's "no difference" between McCain and Obama on this issue.
You are correct about the Abortion... that is Obama’s greatest failure.
However, given the jump of McCain and congress onto the original $700bn bill, I’m not sure THAT would be much better today... we might have had a $500bn Porculus instead of an X-Trillion one...
I disagree. Anyone who thinks each state will end abortion unilaterally is not being realistic. States like Massachusetts will never end abortion on their own, if the federal government just washes their hands of the issue and leaves it entirely up to the states. We tried "sending it back to the states" when this country was divided on slavery and didn't work. There should be a federal amendment abolishing a "right" to an abortion throughout the nation, as was used to end slavery. The right to life is guaranteed to ALL Americans in the constitution, it's not a "state issue" anymore than states have the "right" to decide on their own whether they will allow trial by jury or a right to bear arms. Those rights were guaranteed to all Americans regardless of what state they live in.
On the bailout? No, McCain caved just as Obama did.
But whether McCain would be governing better than Obama is overall, certainly. There's a LOT of crackpot stuff Obama issued in the last month that McCain, even at his worst, wouldn't be caught dead supporting. And on the issue of ABORTION (which is the topic of this thread), McCain would undoubtedly be better than Obama.
So bottom line is the "conservatives" who claimed abortion wouldn't change whether Obama or McCain sat in the oval office were full of crap. I saw many posts arguing "stop trying to scare pro-lifers into voting Republican, it accomplishes nothing. No matter who wins, abortion will be the same as always". Bull. The rules, regulation, and funding of abortion is being altered by Obama even before Congress does anything on the issue. I hope the Bob Barr voters are proud of themselves. They "sent a message" about how they feel about the issues, alright.
One thing about my Church we have been around the block with the Marxists, anyway about a week ago I was reading Scripture and the question was raised about Civil Disobedience meaning that there are times when you simply have to disobey the Civil Authorities. In my humble opinion this is one of them. What happens if medical personnel refuse to perform an abortion?
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I think we’re about to see some serious persecution of Christians in this country. I never thought that COULD happen ,at least, not in my lifetime anyway.
It got me to thinking...
The government, Obama and all the “high places” where nations rise or fall, can deny the people much. They can burden us with immoral legislation and leadership. They can sell us into economic slavery. They can try to remove God from everything that WAS and IS America, but in the end the personal decision is ours. God made us free. We can each choose to live that freedom every day. Only God,himself, has the REAL power that comes not from wielding a fist, but from transforming the hearts, and minds of men! Come what may, no one can take away our liberty to choose to make the best of ANY circumstance.
This reminds me of Viktor Frankl’s book, “Man’s Search for Meaning”. It’s a painfully human account of his experiences living in a Nazi concentration camp during World War II. What is so remarkable to me about this man is that life handed him the worst case scenario. Frankl not only survived to tell the story, but he rose above and became better because of the experience. He stands as a shining example to all of us as we watch our freedoms torn away little by little day by day. Much can be learned from him about how to handle difficulties.
Check out some of Frankl’s quotes and the contrast between his and the thinking of the new administration in D.C.
-“The last of the human freedoms is to choose one’s attitudes”
-“Ever more people today have the means to live, but no meaning to live for.”
-“Love is the only way to grasp another human being in the innermost core of his personality.”
-”Being tolerant does not mean that I share another one’s belief. But it does mean that I acknowledge another one’s right to believe, and obey, his own conscience.”
-“When we are no longer able to change a situation - we are challenged to change ourselves.”
-“What is to give light must endure burning.”
-“Each man is questioned by life; and he can only answer to life by answering for his own life; to life he can only respond by being responsible.”
-“Those who have a ‘why’ to live, can bear with almost any ‘how.’”
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