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They verified he was born in Hawaii...consider this. You all will not accept a copy of the BC...well guess what. When we request our birth certificates, we get a copy. I have lost probably six birth certificates in my various moves and one flood...If you think the state of Hawaii will hand over the original document as you call it, forget about it. They would never hand over such a document. It belongs to Hawaii not Obama; he could not release such a document if he wanted to...they merely copy it for a fee. There is absolutely no reason to believe Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii...thus we are left with natural born theory-total bunk and will never become law.Personally, I don’t think the country would be served well or the constitution upheld if such a law came into existence. Jindal would be excluded by such idiocy in 2012.


172 posted on 01/07/2009 5:48:09 AM PST by bronxboy
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"There is absolutely no reason to believe Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii."

Oh? That's not an honest statement!

176 posted on 01/07/2009 5:52:58 AM PST by bvw
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Well, well, the cricket burps.

They verified he was born in Hawaii...

No, they did no such thing. They verified that the 'vault certificate' was on file, nothing more and nothing less.

consider this. You all will not accept a copy of the BC...well guess what. When we request our birth certificates, we get a copy. I have lost probably six birth certificates in my various moves and one flood...If you think the state of Hawaii will hand over the original document as you call it, forget about it.

If they are so ordered by the SCOTUS to provide the document, they most certainly will provide it, under penalty of law.

They would never hand over such a document. It belongs to Hawaii not Obama; he could not release such a document if he wanted to...they merely copy it for a fee. There is absolutely no reason to believe Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii...

Guess his Grandmother was lying about being present at his birth in Kenya eh?

thus we are left with natural born theory-total bunk and will never become law.Personally, I don’t think the country would be served well or the constitution upheld if such a law came into existence. Jindal would be excluded by such idiocy in 2012.

What you fail to understand with your limited understanding of the Constitution is that the 'natural born' provision was intended to prevent the very thing which is taking place before our eyes, an individual whose birth and loyalties to this Country are in question, i.e., our Founding Fathers did not want our Nation to be led by anyone EXCEPT a natural born citizen in order to avoid the pitfalls of foreign loyalties, dual citizenships which could provide other nations with influence or leverage over our Chief Executive, and that is just good common sense.

Which appears to be something you need to stock up on.
179 posted on 01/07/2009 5:56:59 AM PST by mkjessup ("An empty limousine pulled up in front of the White House, and Barack Hussein Obama got out")
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To: bronxboy
They verified he was born in Hawaii...consider this. You all will not accept a copy of the BC...well guess what. When we request our birth certificates, we get a copy. I have lost probably six birth certificates in my various moves and one flood...If you think the state of Hawaii will hand over the original document as you call it, forget about it. They would never hand over such a document.

Once again absolute nonsense, you are tying to confuse the issue. Why? The document being requested by numerous lawsuits is a certified vault long form copy of the BC. Hawaii has verified such a document exists. Any one can get a copy of their such document from Hawaii. The document could show a Hawaiian birth but it also could show a Kenyan birth.

Obama has refused to provide this long form document, that is a fact. Until he does it is possible that he was born in Kenya. Doesn't it bother you that Obama has failed to cough up this document?

180 posted on 01/07/2009 5:58:30 AM PST by TruthWillWin
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If you think the state of Hawaii will hand over the original document as you call it, forget about it. They would never hand over such a document. It belongs to Hawaii not Obama; he could not release such a document if he wanted to...they merely copy it for a fee.

100% correct.

That's why the people sputtering on how "Obama has hired thousands of lawyers and spent millions of dollars keeping his vault BC locked away. . ." don't have a clue of what they're talking about.

186 posted on 01/07/2009 6:03:38 AM PST by Drew68
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To: bronxboy

They verified he was born in Hawaii...
***No, they did not. Quit lying, troll.


211 posted on 01/07/2009 8:57:41 AM PST by Kevmo ( It's all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
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