Posted on 01/06/2009 11:52:38 AM PST by Kevmo
1. I am Sandra Ramsey Lines, With an adddres at... I am a former federal examiner and law enforcement officer. I began training as a forensic document examiner in 1991. I am a Certified Diplomat of Forensic Sciences, a member of the American Society of Questioned Document Examiners, a member of the Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners, and a member of the Questioned Document Subcommittee of the American Society of Testing and Materials. My background and credentials are set forth in Exhibit I attached hereto.
2. I have reviewed the attached affidavit posted on the internet from Ron Polarik, [PDF] who has declined to provide his name because of a number of death threats he has received. After my review and based on my years of experience, I can state with certainty that the COLB presented on the internet by the various groups, which include the Daily Kos, the Obama Campaign, Factcheck.org and others cannot be relied upon as genuine. Mr. Polarik raises issues concerning the COLB that I can affirm. Software such as Adobe Photoshop can produce complete images or alter images that appear to be genuine; therefore, any image offered on the internet cannot be relied upon as being a copy of the authentic document.
3. Upon a cursory inspection of the internet COLB, one aspect of the image that is clearly questionable is the obliteration of the Certificate No. That number is a tracking number that would allow anyone to ask the question, Does this number refer to the Certification of Live Birth for the child Barack Hussein Obama II? It would not reveal any further personal information; therefore, there would be no justifiable reason for oliterating it.
4. In my experience as a forensic document examiner, if an original of any document exists, that is the document that must be examined to obtain a definitive finding of genuineness or non-genuineness. In this case, examination of the vault birth certificate for President-Elect Obama would lay this issue to rest once and for all.
SANDRA RAMSEY LINES Forensic Document Examiner ........ Paradise Valley, Arizona 85253
SRLines@cox.net
Former Federal Examiner Retired Law Enforcement Officer
* Identification of handwriting, hand printing, signatures, typewriting, photocopying, and printing processes
* Examination of paper, inks, stamps, seals, and other documentary evidence to determine identity, source, authenticity, and possible date
* Forensic analysis of business and medical records to determine whether there are alterations, additions, deletions, erasures, substitutions, and/or if the records were manufactured in a normal course-of-business manner
* Distinguishing forgery from genuineness
* Restoration or decipherment of erased, obliterated or hidden writing
* Expert testimony in state and federal courts, and regulatory hearings
Certified Diplomate, American Board of Forensic Document Examiners Fellow, American Academy of Forensic Sciences Member, American Society of Questioned Document Examiners Member, Southwestern Association of Forensic Document Examiners Member, American Society of Testing and Materials, Forensic Sciences Committee, and Questioned Document Subcommittee
Links.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message694470/pg1
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/executedsandralinesdeclaration_1.pdf Includes Resume Curriculum Vitae
http://therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/anonymous_digitable_expert_declaration_signed.pdf
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message694470/pg1
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/executedsandralinesdeclaration_1.pdf
Includes Resume Curriculum Vitae
I posted this for reference. The PDF contains text which does not pull down from the page.
for your various CertifiGate ping lists
MHGinTN; little jeremiah; LucyT; pissant; Calpernia; Polarik; phil dragoo; ernest_at_the_beach; starwise; FARS; sunken civ
PING A ROO
The name is familiar. Was she one of the experts in Rathergate who told CBS the docs could not be authenticated?
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=2299
POLARIK says:
December 30, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Jean:
I discussed the reason for the blackout of the Certificate Number back in June on my blog, The Greater Evil (polarik.blogtownhall.com). It is also in my final report, Obamas born Conspiracy, which I encourage you to read.
The Certificate Number is comprised of the Form type (151 is used for both the Certificate of Live Birth and Certification of Live Birth), the year of birth (which is 1961, or alleged to be), and lastly a CHRONOLOGICAL & SEQUENTIAL INDEX which is reset every subsequent birth year and increments each time a birth registration is processed from January 1 until December 31 for that birth year.
HOWEVER, Hawaii accepted LATE BIRTH REGISTRATIONS meaning that any birth registration requested after December 31 of the birth year would receive whatever was the NEXT AVAILABLE CERTIFICATE NUMBER, and definitely would not be a number less than the number of births recorded for that year.
Now, IMHO, the reason why it was redacted on the alleged scan image, but allegedly shown as 010641 in the phony Factcheck photos, is that Obamas birth registration was, in fact, a late one, and would not have a number less than 14,000 (approx. the number of births for 1961 that actually were recorded during 1961). I believe that if you looked up birth record #151 1961-10641, you would find someone who is now deceased!
Seeing as how none has ever seen any evidence of Obamas real birth record, why not just borrow the certificate number from someone you know who really was born in Hawaii in 1961, or even from someone deceased who wont have much use for it anymore. Im sure that Obama could have picked one up on his trip to Hawaii prior to August 21 the date that Factcheck posted their phony photos.
As i have maintained throughout my four months of research, from June to September, there was never a real, paper Certification of Live Birth made from Obamas birth record.
And, I can tell you that Mayas COLB was not used for the forgery. That was the categorically, false theory of the now, discredited Techdude, whom I exposed as a fraud a full month before his Exclusive Forgery Report was published on July 20 of this year.
It also cannot be Mayas COLB because the year of birth would be wrong and the number would point to someone living who could identify it.
There were approximately 14,000 births in 1961, and #10,641 is bit low for someone allegedly born on August 4th as far fewer babies are born in the last quarter of the year than the second and third quarters.
Jean, the ultimate source for all things related to Obamas COLB (and everyone elses COLB) is my 160-page (printed), fully illustrated report at polarik.blogtownhall.com
FYI, Not only was I the very first person to identify and demonstrate that the online COLB is a forgery, I was the only one to prove that Factchecks photos are also fraudulent forgeries.
The coup de grace, as far as Obamas COLB being bogus with a capital B, is the fact that the Seal pictured on Obamas COLB, allegedly printed in 2007, is not the Seal that appears on real 2007 COLBs (BTW, it was the borders found on real 2007 COLBs that sunk TechDudes dingy).
The cold, hard facts in this case seem not dissuade the Obamatons who insist that the online COLB is proof of his US citizenship, his natural-born status, and everything else connected with the Obama legend. The facts have also not deterred my detractors who were (and maybe still are) desperate to prove me wrong. Yet, their best (and last) great hope was someone (with impeccable credentials) who claimed to have debunked my final report which would have been an incredible feat, seeing as how he never read it. Techdude also had impeccable credentials except that he stole them from someone else.
As far as forensic document experts go, Sandra Lines is the real deal, folks, and they dont come any better. When it comes to the field of COLB research, Im all alone here, and that is why I am thankful to Sandra for giving her stamp of approval to my work.
The bottom line is that, regardless of who this all plays out, a deliberate, premeditated act of fraud was committed bwhen this false identification document was created and passed off as Obamas original birth certificate (and still is, according to Obamas own website), for the sole purpose of deceiving the American public into believing that Obama is a natural-born US citizen and, therefore, is Constitutionally qualified to serve as President.
There were many people who were complicit in planning and committing this act of fraud and what better way to shield oneself from scrutiny than to call this fraud a right-wing conspiracy voiced by a few sore loser, nut-jobs wearing tin-foil hats?
Now, I cannot say that any formal changes will ever come from this online COLB conspiracy yes, it is a bonafide conspiracy. It may be swept under the rug and forgotten, and the ones behind this little charade may never be known. Yet, I dont hear as many people pointing fingers and laughing now as compared to the number I heard back in June when I began this research.
In fact, I now see hundreds of thousands of new fingers being wagged in the direction of Obama, and it means that I helped to enlighten others.
Was she one of the experts in Rathergate
***Dunno
I still would like to see something that verifies Polarik’s credentials however, Sandra Ramsey is the real deal. She was around with the Bush guard doc scandal.
http://www.ashbrook.org/noleftturns/?archiveID=5003
Re: Polariks final report: Obamas Born ConspiracyForged images, phony photos, and felony fraud
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2136816/posts
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Re: OBAMAS BORN CONSPIRACY - Important and corrections
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2141142/posts
BTW, I learned that there were 17,716 births in 1961, not 14,000 -- I was looking at the number for Honolulu.
If births were evenly spread across quarters, then #10640 would not be that far off..but I cannot find a periodic breakdown for Hawaii in 1961.
Still doesn’t account for the fact that the state of Hawaii vouches for the document.
And “Polarik” isn’t even the guy’s real name? You cerifitruthers are being had.
Oh, hi! Nice to finally meet the nut behind the conspiracy theories.
From what I have read, Hawaii has merely said that the original document is on file. Nothing about its content.
Have you found something further on this?
I posted it to you. That way we all can see already what you’ve had to say and you don’t have to do the extra legwork. Now FReepers are more up to speed.
You’re the one who’s being had. Now there’s a certified document examiner who says exactly the same thing Polarik has been saying.
And the state of Hawaii has not vouched for the document, troll.
He’s just a troll. Try not to feed the trolls.
I don’t really care to play the games. I know what’s going to happen. I’ll post the quote. You’ll take it out of context, saying that it means something different from what it says. You’ll claim that Hawaii has birth certificates stored on everyone who has ever lived there, doesn’t matter whether they were born there, I’ll laugh at such a preposterous statement, meanwhile no one who subscribes to the belief that Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii will have to submit even the smallest bit of proof to back up their ideas of a non-Hawaiian birth.
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