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1 posted on 11/06/2008 3:32:12 PM PST by big black dog
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To: big black dog

Turn them off......how long will we let the MSM run this country?


2 posted on 11/06/2008 3:34:09 PM PST by roses of sharon (The MSM vampires must die.)
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To: big black dog

I’m very selective on what I watch on Fox anymore and that is not much.


3 posted on 11/06/2008 3:34:21 PM PST by Parley Baer
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To: big black dog

I am DISGUSTED they resorted to gossip as news.


4 posted on 11/06/2008 3:34:52 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: big black dog
What was not anticipated was the disgraceful level of venom-laden vitriolic drool that dribbled from their camp, and their use of a FORMERLY respected Fox News reporter as their personal tool for deflecting their own accountability.

There, fixed it.

5 posted on 11/06/2008 3:34:54 PM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: big black dog

I know why O’Reilly ran this. He ran the story because he wants an interview with Palin.

He wants ratings and knows she can deliver so he gets Carl Cameron to tell the story and then asks Palin to come on his program Monday.

The guy is a snake!


7 posted on 11/06/2008 3:39:54 PM PST by Moconservative
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To: big black dog

The only person responsible for McCain’s loss is McCain, period. Any thing else is CYA BS.


8 posted on 11/06/2008 3:40:28 PM PST by Michael.SF. ("They're not Americans. They're liberals! "-- Ann Coulter, May 15, 2008)
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To: big black dog

Faux News wants access to Our Leader, The One (piss be upon him), just like the rest of the MSM.

Because Faux News is now mainstream.


9 posted on 11/06/2008 3:42:16 PM PST by Old Sarge (For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American)
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To: big black dog

I haven’t watched Fox news since Tuesday night. I don’t plan on watching any news for a while. I can get all the news I want off the net.


10 posted on 11/06/2008 3:46:22 PM PST by CriticalJ
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To: big black dog

FOX was the last news station left on my Direct TV line up. The rest, CNN, MSNBC, etc. I blocked. Today FOX joins them. I don’t need TV news and do not want TV news. I’m done with news with an agenda.


11 posted on 11/06/2008 3:46:27 PM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: big black dog
I'm a recovering cable news junkie.

I turned off CNN and MSNBC about two months ago....Fox News followed about a month later.

If I can't watch something unflitered on C-Span, I don't watch it.

The shakes DO subside and life IS better without the vapid noise from cable news.

14 posted on 11/06/2008 3:54:17 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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I can’t recall the source (it may have been Dick Morris) but he printed an article that alleged that the McCain Campaign had been handled with “political misconduct” (and this was two weeks before the vote!). In fact, it may have been Luntz or another talking head.

In short, the whole thing was “amateur hour.” The only thing worth a dang was Sarah Palin who kept the whole charade alive...


15 posted on 11/06/2008 3:54:45 PM PST by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: big black dog

“But for Bill O’Reilly to consciously participate in this kind of slander was unthinkable up until now.”

Read BOR was doing this and didn’t watch. Will no longer tune in to FAUX except for Hannity and Neil Cavuto (my mom loves them).

And I’m not at all surprised at BOR’s behavior regarding Sarah. He has a HUGE problem with women and he’s a self-aggrandizing tabloid gossiper from way back (yet he calls facts innuendo when it suits his purpose). I’ll not waste my time watching the pinhead.


17 posted on 11/06/2008 4:02:38 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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The problems I had here in Indiana took place weeks before Sarah Palin was named VEEP choice. I was told by a "senior McCain official" that Indiana just wasn't that important.

It certainly was important to Obama who visited dozens of times.

18 posted on 11/06/2008 4:02:43 PM PST by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
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To: big black dog

Methinks we’re being played. Beware the bait!


20 posted on 11/06/2008 4:05:20 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Jimmah Carter cubed. Obama, the only man in America who can make Hillary Clinton look good.)
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To: big black dog
Normally, Fox News is a quality news outlet that has more integrity and balance than any other news outlet. Not so, today. Somehow, Fox let itself slide to the level of the National Enquirer when it ran with some wild rumors about Sarah Palin that originated from “unnamed” sources.

I hate to break this to you, but Fox News has been a trashy tabloid "news outlet" for years. The programming is sensationalist to the point of being tiresome (which is typical of a Rupert Murdoch media outlet), and when they hired that moron Geraldo Rivera they exposed themselves as a complete fraud.

26 posted on 11/06/2008 4:19:59 PM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: big black dog

FNC has gone the way of the MSM. We don’t watch them anymore. They’ve gotten too big for their boots and just like the rest of the lame media. It’s VERY quiet in our home except for the sounds of music. Sure as hell beats the talking heads and “all about me’s” on the boob tubes.


28 posted on 11/06/2008 4:28:15 PM PST by cubreporter
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They’ve been going the trashy route for a while.


32 posted on 11/06/2008 4:37:34 PM PST by cyborg (Soon to be a graduate LPN by the grace of God.)
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To: big black dog; Frank Sheed; Michael.SF.

I sent the following email to Sarah Palin’s governor office in early September.

I am supposed to enthusiastically join the Republican campaign, because McCain has chosen you as his vice president candidate. However, I foresee you confronting consistent internal tactics to isolate, misquote, miscommunicate and misinform shunting into obscurity the conservative positions, which dominate your political career.

Conservatives associating with the Republican Party may view you positively, but manifold enemies surround you. McCain forces will grant such selective influence, as they believe increases daily polling numbers, not only during the campaign, but in Washington if the Republican ticket is elected. According to Republican elites an era of William F. Buckley’s writings fueling Ronald Reagan’s initiatives is historical aberration, so maintaining conservative credentials means fighting a political Cold War. Principled actions demand extraordinary energy, cunning, and endurance to fight battles within as severe as any against the Democrats.

I received a small taste of that when spending several fruitless days attempting to open an account the GOP said people could use to address platform issues. I think it is reasonable to conclude too many people, who were not John McCain acolytes, had been submitting information. I had seen stories GOP elites were going to rewrite the platform for McCain’s candidacy, and there was confirmation.

You can easily follow downward sloping paths similar to Ike Eisenhower’s in relationships with political elites. When Republicans chose Ike, Harry Truman said they would eat him alive. Truman foretold Ike’s principle compromises, even as Republican leaders maintained Ike’s proven character was vital to reverse ever-diminishing Republican Party influence.

The first major principle abandonment came when Joe McCarthy denounced George Marshall as a Communist. General Marshall had promoted Eisenhower over hosts of more senior officers, and supported his assignment as commander of the D-Day invasion. Ike decreed McCarthy would not board his train in Wisconsin. Ike would also present a tribute to Marshall in Milwaukee. First aides, through supposed miscommunication, allowed McCarthy on the train. Political aides then not only dissuaded Ike from delivering the tribute, but also convinced him to appear with McCarthy in speeches. Eventually Ike would participate in political lies surrounding the U-2, completely stifling the character and principles of the man who lead allied troops on D-Day, and whom Americans thought they had elected.

I do not plan to identify with the politically nuanced who find compromise of conservative principles a way to office. In general saying, “Vote for us. We are just as good as the Democrats” should garner many votes from those traditionally driven by media sound bites impacting their emotions. However, the party alienates people like me who voted their own job out of existence, decided to serve voluntarily in harms way, turned down promotions out of principle, and operate a home on a single income. From events of the past several years, I must conclude that fundamentally the GOP finds such people as you and me irrelevant, if not embarrassing.

Remember the success of Bill Clinton cemented in politics for both parties the idea that character did not matter. There are no principles, but only ideas that secure possession of an office. John McCain is the most prominent Republican example of this new direction towards possession of power through careful exploitation of perceived expediency. You have been chosen for the ideas you express, but those dominating party leadership remain confident they can suppress or deflect any embarrassing expressions of principle. For you to maintain conservative stature requires overcoming McCain’s additive fawning for media, and liberal approval.

Politics is the art of compromise and leadership is the art of principle. Lincoln used superb political skills to implement some of the most cogent and insightful principles to guide this nation. McCain has used political skills to implement compromises consistent with increasing personal acclaim. The former is dead and the latter is alive, but dead to principles unrelated to his immediate personal advancement.

Since leadership is absent from the Democrat and Republican Parties, each individual must make a way to manage commitment to principle and political party affiliation. Each individual must answer questions as to what extent, under what circumstances and when, if ever, do you forsake conservative principles to align with an enemy of your beliefs against a greater enemy of your beliefs? You should never pretend conscious decisions are not required every day as political elites offer instruction and persuasion allowing you to find supposedly morally or ethically supportable choices, when such weighty utilitarian and cynical considerations dominate the campaign.

Besides McCain’s conservative problems with granting amnesty to illegal aliens and restricting freedom of speech, he has a more subtle, but tragic, deficiency in the areas of national security and integrity illustrating my point about correctly identifying moral and ethical issues.

John McCain lacks leadership for the Global War on Terror. His leadership codified the Army interrogation manual making terrorists legal combatants. His leadership granted terrorists American citizenship rights under Fifth, Eighth and Fourteenth Amendments. He thereby ensures information vital to defeat terrorists remains sacred and unobtainable. Terrorists are unresponsive to direct questioning and psychological gambits. Therefore, interrogators need all stress and coercion techniques our military encounters in survival schools. McCain embraces liberal orthodoxy considering those methods torture, but his searing experiences call forth contrary insights he must suppress.

McCain especially understands from the Geneva Conventions terrorists are not insurgents or freedom fighters. They are not armed forces, militias, or volunteer corps of any country or authority. These killers are not members of organized resistance movements carrying arms openly. They have no distinctive identifier. Terrorists cannot even qualify as spies or saboteurs destroying infrastructure required to support military operations. Therefore, they are not prisoners of war.

McCain understands Geneva Conventions intended to isolate such forces, provide them no protections, and allow destruction with any overwhelming furies needed to crush their abominations. Knowing these factors, he has promised to close Guantanamo Bay, inviting terrorists into our legal system. He has decided to accommodate extraordinarily savage behavior, which checkmates national laws intended to manage simple murder and kidnapping, and renders Posse Comitatus a crumbling deception. To gain liberal and media approbation, McCain has embraced their doctrinaire civil liberty rules providing legal conduits enabling terrorists to move operatives and material into this country for an effective war against us.

McCain especially appreciates from our Constitution that laws guaranteeing civil liberties presuppose operation within an invincible society. He more than most understands Alexander Hamilton’s words that acknowledging devastating, unforeseeable perils exist must precede deliberations balancing common defense and civil liberties. The Federal government’s three branches primary responsibility is to pursue Hamilton’s admonition that powers must exit without limitation; providing capabilities thwarting dangers as well as repelling attacks. McCain understands powerful warfare capabilities require the potent intelligence acquisition and exploitation he is determined to withhold before and throughout military campaigns.

The framers of our Constitution and the Geneva Conventions held powerful positions throughout the darkest times of our country and the world. They were our Founding Fathers, and parents and grandparents of the Greatest Generation. Their words expressed durable morality earned in our fight for freedom, and against the ultimate bloody deluges of the 20th century. These first generations expressed principles derived from confronting shattering tragedies, and earning peace through victory. John McCain’s actions are particularly reprehensible because he turns a blind eye to the council of these people for personal political gain.

McCain continually seeks popular advancement by placating those coveting comforting morality allowing shelter from hard choices and danger awareness. His crime is repudiating military and intelligence professionals facing the hardest choices when confronting shrewd, ruthless enemies obscured behind frightening uncertainties.

John McCain succumbed to the terrible addiction of political power. The same addiction expressed itself differently in fellow Navy officer Randy Cunningham, who was the Navy’s first Vietnam ace. Over the decades the honor and moral authority of both were gradually traded away for influence in the political arena. To me McCain is like a cadaver prepared for viewing. The removal of blood and organs equates to the trading away of honor and moral authority. The reputation that remains is like the cosmetics applied for viewing the corpse at the funeral. It is easy for anyone, including you, to get onto the same sort of gently downward sloping path.

The final result is tragic, but we should not suffer such pathetic and contemptible modern day Macbeths or Hamlets as President and Vice President. We should not design a platform enabling continuation of such abominable expressions of behavior. Conservatives should also be skeptical that anyone, including you, can maintain principle against determined assaults by political elites quietly chanting the mantra Bill Clinton bequeathed to politics.


33 posted on 11/06/2008 4:37:48 PM PST by Retain Mike
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Fight Back, Join Operation Freep Palin
36 posted on 11/06/2008 5:38:42 PM PST by mnehring
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To: big black dog
"Don't watch mainstream media. Cancel your newspapers and magazines. Don't watch network news. Use the Internet for your news as much as you can"

I made a vow to never watch any MSM news again, we stopped watching CNN, MSNBC years ago and we are very close to scratching FOX news, with ORealy in the tank for Obomination as well.

Frankly I and my entire family don't trust any of them or what they have to say. They are all propaganda tools of Satan and the democRATS to bend and mold the minds and will of the weak minded and uninformed to drink the Obamessiah Kool Aid.

While I will pray for Obama's salvation, as far as a blessing for America's new "TZAR" to quote Tevya... "May God bless TZAR Obama and keep him far away from us!"

37 posted on 11/06/2008 8:17:09 PM PST by Jmouse007 (tot)
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