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To: SE Mom
I have in my hands a copy of a delayed birth certificate for one of my great uncles. No cert was issued at the time of his birth & I assume he was born at home & only needed a cert when he applied for Social Security in 1952.

This delayed cert has the following type of info on it in the abstract:

School records from 1899 (name of school, location, name of supervisor)

State Census record from 1905 (location & family number)

His marriage record 1914 (location)

An affidavit from his mother 1951

His age was shown for each of these events & the location for his birth for each of these events were shown if they were included in the documents listed in the abstract. Each of his parents were also noted if they were included in the document in the abstract.

If Obama’s mother never applied to get his birth recorded, he may have a delayed cert with things on it that he doesn't want made public.

His mother may have never applied at all & it's possible that he never filed for a delayed record himself. Calling his grandmother the last one or whatever he called her, could be he's been trying to gather the evidence necessary to get a delayed cert issued. If he was delivered at home & not in a medical facility, it wouldn't be unusual to have no vault birth certificate.

Hawaii has only been a state since 1959. He claims to have been born there two years later. What if he was born before Hawaii's statehood? His birth would have been in an American Territory, but not an American state. I have no idea if or how that has ever come up before.

6,079 posted on 10/23/2008 12:53:32 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: GoLightly
His birth would have been in an American Territory, but not an American state. I have no idea if or how that has ever come up before.

There have been US Presidents who were born in territories before they became states. I believe that precedent would hold in the case of Alaska or Hawaii -- can't see why it wouldn't.

6,082 posted on 10/23/2008 1:19:44 PM PDT by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: GoLightly
What if he was born before Hawaii's statehood? His birth would have been in an American Territory, but not an American state. I have no idea if or how that has ever come up before.

Barry Goldwater was born in the Arizona Territory, before it became a state.

6,083 posted on 10/23/2008 1:21:32 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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