Posted on 03/24/2008 9:38:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
Why is this now in “Bloggers”?
Christians should have gotten behind Duncan Hunter instead of Huckabee. Hunter was closer to being a Reagan conservative than anyone in a long time. He had the Christian rights issues nailed down perfectly as well.
If you remember the value voters debate in Florida, it was almost a set-up to promote and elevate Huckabee’s stature.
It wasn't "almost," it "was."
Agree with you on 2012 but right now, I am looking for a place for my vote in 2008.
Total BS ... what America wants is ANYBODY but Hitlery or the Obamanation ...
Oh and BTW .... nice born on date
And they blew it! Big time!
It takes more than being a pastor with flowery speech. If that was the main requirements, they could have backed Jesse Jackson.
i believe that a third party candidate needs to get into the race BEFORE the two main parties have their nominees... come in as a real option, not just as a last minute alternative... a conservative third party ought to run no matter who the GOP candidate is... and more than one person ought to run in the third party primaries... get a few really good conservative third party candidates... it seems hard to do, but at the very least, one third party candidate ought to come into the race right away...
Huckabee’s intellectual and experiential shallowness was on display in the Values Voter debate, when he had no clue what the Mexico City Policy was.
But the drones who were brought in just did as they were prepped to do.
Sad.
And the “leaders” who did it won’t even admit they made a mistake. Many of them are spending their time trying to figure out how to put enough lipstick on the McCain pig to make him acceptable to their constituency, instead of facing up to the truth.
McCain could win only because the Democrats’ nominee will be just as awful. I really don’t care to see him win. I believe we will be able to fight and stop the Democrat led Democrats easier than the McCain led Democrats.
as a Christian, you had me pretty excited about your idea... until you pushed Huckabee... i don't see him as "the Reagan conservative" at all... to me, he is the non-thinking Christian's candidate... sorry for how that sounds... i'm just not impressed with him at all... i have received flack about that from some of my homeschool comrades because he has said he supports homeschooling... but that wasn't enough for me to give him my support...
Oh, I agree completely! But one must remember that the Christians, if left to themselves, tend to be factional conservatives (SOCONs), and without proper input from the other factions, they will vote primarily for their issues.
But I think they know that about themselves- Notice how they didn't hoist Huck outta' the basement until after Fred made himself completely unpalatable to them. They waited on the Republicans to raise up a Conservative- I am almost sure of it. When the Republicans failed to do so, they went their own way.
At the very least, I think Gingrich had a good idea. He suggested a partitioning of Conservatives within the Republican Party. While the party means nothing to me, the idea of an organized head to the Reagan Coalition is quite attractive to me. Without that head guiding the three factions, they remain separated. That weakness has been exploited time and again. Without a Conservative leadership, the factions are easily divided.
Not that I am against a Conservative party either (I am very much for it), but it's value, primarily, would be to form that leadership head- The rest just sorta' happens.
I don’t think he was pushing Huckabee at all.
BUMP that.
Please let me correct that perception:
I am not 'pushing' Huckabee. I was solidly in the Hunter camp until he dropped out, whereupon I settled into the Keyes camp. I am a Reagan Conservative, and will not support a candidate who does not embrace all three pillars of Conservatism.
What I had attempted to draw attention to was the unique and incredible power of the Christians who were able to singlehandedly haul a nowhere candidate out of low single digits and make him a contender. And that with but a third of their primary voting base. Whether one agrees with their choice or not, their political power seems evident to me.
Yeah, I knew I was preaching to the choir! I agree too about a head to the movement. The one thing missing is a total lack of leaders within the conservative movement. There are plenty of foot soldiers just waiting for someone to come along and bring us all together.
Huckabee convinced some of them, it’s true, but he lacked the authenticity to attract the majority of social conservatives. btw, most of the SOCONS I know are also hot on issues like tax reform, defense, etc. In other words, Reaganesque.
You thought correctly. :D
;)
Nice to seeya btw!
The one thing missing is a total lack of leaders within the conservative movement. There are plenty of foot soldiers just waiting for someone to come along and bring us all together.
Agreed. That is because we have relied upon the Republican party apparatus... An obvious mistake in hindsight. Their leadership is against us, and has been since Reagan stepped down.
Huckabee convinced some of them, its true, but he lacked the authenticity to attract the majority of social conservatives. btw, most of the SOCONS I know are also hot on issues like tax reform, defense, etc. In other words, Reaganesque.
Agreed on all points. Huck's support, at it's core, was the dyed in the wool Pro-Life crew, IMHO. Normally the difference would not be notable, except with the candidates available, they had no where else to go. Would that they had lifted Hunter up instead- He was certainly acceptable. But they did not *sigh*.
The rest of us went no further, once the Reaganites were gone.
There isn’t a “serious conservative 3rd party”. Period.
The Natural Law Partyparty started and operated by the followers of the late guru, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi.
Once the entire US electorate is able to engage in Yogic Flying, the "Maharishi Effect" will supposedly bring about true bliss and world peace.
It’s 1992 all over again except that Clinton and Obama are BOTH the 3rd party candidates. Unless the Dems find someone else that both sides of that party can all vote for, McCain will be the plurality winner.
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