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Commentary: Doing away with the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) (Replacing With The Fair Tax)
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| Ken Hoagland
Posted on 02/01/2008 12:06:25 PM PST by Man50D
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:06:28 PM PST
by
Man50D
To: ancient_geezer; Taxman; pigdog; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; n-tres-ted; ...
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:06:56 PM PST
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Man50D
I can only support a change to the Fair Tax if is requires a Constitutional ammendment repealing the income tax. Without that, there is nothing to prevent a future Congress from re-imposing an income tax.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:08:25 PM PST
by
ops33
(Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
To: Man50D
I am undecided about the fair tax. Someone did bring up the question concerning how you do the changeover. Lots of people who have made major financial decisions based on the current system could be ruined over night through no fault of their own.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:09:21 PM PST
by
Dr. Sivana
(Not a newbie, I just wanted a new screen name.)
To: Man50D
Even a fair tax has to have someone to collect it, which means the IRS remains.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:09:55 PM PST
by
aimhigh
To: Man50D
Has Wesley Snipes been sentenced yet?
To: ops33
It’s in the bloody Fair Tax Bill!
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:12:42 PM PST
by
wastedyears
(This is my BOOMSTICK)
To: Man50D
Never.
Gonna.
Happen.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:12:51 PM PST
by
elizabetty
(John McCain Hates Michael Reagan...........John McCain Hates Me, too. The feeling is mutual.)
To: Man50D
The greatest benefits of tax reductions under the FairTax, according to respected economists, accrue to low income taxpayers (an average 14% reduction) then to the middle class taxpayers(an average 7% reduction) and then even to the wealthy (an average 5% reduction). How can this be and still raise enough revenues to replace all taxes now collected under the income tax system? It can't and it won't.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:13:41 PM PST
by
Always Right
(Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
To: xcamel
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:15:32 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: wastedyears
no it is not.
it is LEGISLATIVE not constitutional.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:16:19 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: wastedyears
Under HR 25 located at http://www.thomas.gov
SEC. 101. INCOME TAXES REPEALED.
Subtitle A of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 (relating to income taxes and self-employment taxes) is repealed.
+++-—+++___+++
There is NOTHING stopping a reenactment of income tax on top of the 30% sales tax.
ZERO
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:20:03 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: ops33
Name one position any of the candidates have taken that can’t be abolished by a future Congress.
The claim that a good thing can’t be supported because it could in the future be corrupted is poor reasoning.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:20:18 PM PST
by
Deut28
(Cursed be he who perverts the justice)
To: elizabetty
but mike huckabee staked his ENTIRE CREDIBILITY ON THE IRS BOOGEYMAN!!!!!
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:21:00 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: aimhigh
How did taxes get collected before the IRS?
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:22:59 PM PST
by
Xenophon450
(I guess I'll never know, some things under the sun can never be understood...)
To: Deut28
without a constitutional change this, giving all the claims as to revenue neutrality as a given assumption, does NOTHING to help taxpayers.
We are taxed too much, the IRS must go, this tax scam proposal does nothing but give us idiotic huckabee commercials.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:26:51 PM PST
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: elizabetty
Never. Gonna. Happen Love the optimism.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:32:39 PM PST
by
cowboyway
("No damn man kills me and lives." -- Nathan Bedford Forrest)
To: ops33
I can only support a change to the Fair Tax if is requires a Constitutional ammendment repealing the income tax.
House Joint Resolution 16 has been introduced before Congress to abolish the IRS. It is the start of the process to repeal the 16th Amendment. Americans For Fair Taxation(AFFT) is working concurrently to have the 16th Amendment repealed. You can get involved by joining AFFT instead of waiting on the sidelines for other people to do the work.
Without that, there is nothing to prevent a future Congress from re-imposing an income tax.
There has been nothing to stop Congress from passing such legislation in the past except for one obstacle. Congress critters are painfully aware passing a consumption tax while maintaining a federal income tax would cause outrage from the people tantamount to the level felt when Congress twice attempted to grant amnesty to illegal aliens this summer. Congress quickly backed down after experiencing such anger. The last thing politicians want is millions of constituents flooding their offices with angry calls, faxes and emails.
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:33:56 PM PST
by
Man50D
(Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
To: Your Nightmare; Always Right; lewislynn; lucysmom; robertpaulsen; Filo; longtermmemmory; ...
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posted on
02/01/2008 12:36:31 PM PST
by
xcamel
(Two-hand-voting now in play - One on lever, other holding nose.)
To: aimhigh
How is the tax collected?
Retail businesses collect the tax from the consumer, just as state sales tax systems already do in 45 states; the FairTax is simply an additional line on the current sales tax reporting form. Retailers simply collect the tax and send it to the state taxing authority. All businesses serving as collection agents receive a fee for collection, and the states also receive a collection fee. The tax revenues from the states are then sent to the U.S. Treasury. ............................................................
Frequesntly asked Questions about the Fair Tax
http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServer?pagename=about_faq
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