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To: SampleMan

There is no case that Allah and God are the same. Christians believe that Jesus is God. The Muslims believe that Jesus is a man. Either Jesus is Gor or not; there’s no way to square that circle.


110 posted on 10/07/2007 6:55:43 AM PDT by sobieski
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To: sobieski
There is no case that Allah and God are the same. Christians believe that Jesus is God. The Muslims believe that Jesus is a man. Either Jesus is Gor or not; there’s no way to square that circle.

Do you believe there are multiple gods?

I don't. I believe in One God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of Heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.

So how, exactly, do the false beliefs of the muslims create for you many gods? When they pray to Allah, they are either praying to nothing, or to God. Which one do you understand it to be?

They cannot create a false god by their prayers.

115 posted on 10/07/2007 7:00:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Trails of troubles, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: sobieski
There is no case that Allah and God are the same. Christians believe that Jesus is God. The Muslims believe that Jesus is a man. Either Jesus is Gor or not; there’s no way to square that circle.

Where does that leave the Jewish faith? Or do you believe that Jews also do not pray to the same God as Christians?

139 posted on 10/07/2007 8:22:55 AM PDT by sharkhawk (Bear Down Chicago Bears)
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To: sobieski

Isn’t it possible for God to square any circle He wants?


150 posted on 10/07/2007 8:48:49 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to.....otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: sobieski; Westbrook
You both missed my point. Islam was created by Mohamed using a grab bag mix from Judaism and Christianity. Thus the object of the Muslims is intended to be the God of Abraham. Of course they don’t accept the Trinity, but neither do Jews.

The question is then, are they worshiping God in a way he finds pleasing? Given that they treat Mohamed as infallible and think of heaven as a carnal pleasure land, I would say not.

You are free of course to argue that by trying to shape God to fit their image, they have in fact created a separate god. Which is a credible argument.

204 posted on 10/07/2007 3:26:13 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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To: sobieski
There is no case that Allah and God are the same. Christians believe that Jesus is God. The Muslims believe that Jesus is a man. Either Jesus is Gor or not; there’s no way to square that circle.

So you are also arguing that Jews and Christians don't share the same God. I think my point is the better one. Not whether its the same God, but whether the Muslims are actually honoring Him, vice using His name for their own self-serving ends.

206 posted on 10/07/2007 3:30:17 PM PDT by SampleMan (Islamic tolerance is practiced by killing you last.)
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