Few in Washington care what the rest of thinks. There will, however, be a day of reconing for our central government.
Bush and his country club buddies need to come live in the REAL America for a few days before they push through this amnesty bill!
Me thinks that was the final blow in his political suicide.
Interesting that we Americans seem to forget a couple of things when talking about immigration—primarily that we are all descendants of the huddles masses yearning to be free. And that during the day of Ellis Island, all you had to do was get here, with or without “papers”. And, that, if, during WWII if we had let some of those ships in to the US, fewer Jewish people would have been exterminated like bugs by the Nazis. It’s the same as saying “Well, I passed the bar exam, now let’s tighten up the rules and make it harder for the rest”.
My true concern is this: Once the primarily Mexican population is here, can our mushy education system teach them what they need to know to maintain a democracy? A true democracy cannot be maintained with uneducated, easily manipulated people that cannot think critically and that is the larger problem the way I see it. Also, we need to require assimilation, mainitain strict limits on social programs so that people are self sufficient.
Note to "Conservatives". Screaming bile and hysteria, just like Leftist lunatics do, MAY make you feel all macho and cool but it does NOTHING to convince people to support your political position. In fact, it makes people dismiss you as rabid fanatics. More reason, less hysteric ranting. These sorts of screaming hate piece hurt the cause far more then then they help
Wonderful, jorge calling conservatives UNAMERICAN.
Are we to have a republic with laws founded upon a MOTTO or a CONSTITUTION? I think not, your royal hindna$$
Hysteria sells. An is it NOT interesting that the same drama queens in the "Conservative" media who could not be bothered to get off their butts any time in the last 7 years and fight the Democrats on anything have NOW suddenly gone into overdrive when they can shoot their own in the back?
On Judges alone Bush has done far more good for the future of the Conservative Movement then all the pseudo Conservative Radio ranters and newspaper scribblers have, or ever will, do for it.
I guess it just another example of moral cowards in action. The Democrat media machine fight back, and fights back nasty. It so much easier for the pseudo "Conservatives" in the US Junk Media to shoot their allies in the back since THEY never return fire!
These gutless wonders deserve the butt kicking they are going to get from Mrs Bill Clinton and the Democrat Socialists machine in 2008.
Are you attributing these two words, in this order, without any context, to the president?
That's lower than Dan Rather.
Your posting history proves conclusively that you are completely overcome with rabid Bush hate. The factual merits of any argument are irrelevant to you.
Your position, like most of the Dincons hanging out on this website, is wholly determined by which side Bush is on. What ever he says, YOU oppose.
Frankly if you Dinocons actually want to help the Conservative Movement, GET OFF OUR SIDE. Your sort of knee jerk back stabbing and hysteric overly emotional ranting does our cause much more harm then good.
I cannot decide which is more amusing your basic ignorance of US politics, economics and history or your arrogance in coming here every day to lecture people on topics you obviously next to nothing about.
I think the reason why old “Conservatives” are getting so bent out of shape here is they know there was more then a bit of truth in the President’s statements about them.
There is more then a whiff of “Know Nothingism” around the Immigration debate that is seriously damaging the Conservatives argument. The hyper hysteric bile and over heated rhetoric pouring out of the “Conservative” media makes people who MIGHT otherwise agree with the argument suspicious of the motivations of those making the argument. They all are just a bit too emotional on this topic to be taken seriously.
Preaching to the choir may make all the little ‘Net warriors feel all macho and cool, it will not advance their political agenda one iota.
To advance your agenda you have to reach people who may only partially, or slightly, agree with your views. Screaming hate and bile at anyone who does NOT agree only 100% with the personal dogmas of the screamers, is not going to win this fight.
But frankly, I suspect the "Conservative" establishment and it's drones really do not want to win. So much easier for them to just be an angry fringe screaming mindlessly about everything then to actually do the heavy lifting it requires to be an effective part of the political process.
Now that you have prove my point about the emotionally hysteric demagogic nature of the Antis arguement on this topic, try reigning in your angst and actually taking the time to read and rationally responding to my point.
The simple fact is you old Conservative are not at all interested in getting things done on any issue, you merely want to sit here on the side lines and mindlessly scream about everything. That why the ONLY solutions you people put up are mere slogans. You all scream things like "Enforce the laws" (Which hasn't worked to date) "Deport them" (How?) "Punish business that hire illegals" (again how?) etc while making utterly NO effort to actually explain how any of that would actually be done.
Face it, the Antis aren't really interested in any solutions on this topic, they just enjoy the excuse to rant and rave in the most hyper hysteric bile filled terms at a President they have always hated. EVEN if they got exactly what they wanted on this topic , they would be right back here tomorrow screaming about something else.
Frankly after 7 years, Most Conservatives are sick of this constant whining.
No slogans or trite simplistic answer. What do we do, how do we do it, what are the costs? We appoint you king, give you unlimited power. What do YOU do about the Illegals?