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President "Do Wrong"
News By Us ^ | Jun 01, 07 | Chip McLean

Posted on 06/02/2007 7:36:56 AM PDT by GFritsch

Were you aware that if you oppose amnesty for illegal aliens, you “don’t want to do what’s right for America”? President Bush said exactly that about those in opposition to the “immigration reform” bill that he and Teddy Kennedy wish to cram down our throats.

Bush made his remarks in a speech to students and instructors at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. In the ultimate act of chutzpah, Bush championed the secretly negotiated bill that rewards millions of lawbreakers, in front of those who have chosen law enforcement as a career. Hardly the example I would want or expect from a U.S. president.

President Bush has repeated, mantra-like, that the “guest worker” program he favors isn’t amnesty. He can say it until he’s blue in the face, but any program that enables illegals to obtain a probationary card right away, in order to live and work in the U.S. is amnesty, regardless of what Mr. Bush wishes to call it.

The president is fond of claiming that the bill will “secure our border”. Does anyone really believe that our congress critters (or the president) are serious about securing the border? Remember last year, when Congress approved with much fanfare the building of a 700-mile fence along our southern border? They then quietly never appropriated the money for it. The new bill ( Senate Bill 1348), calls for only 370 miles of fence along the southern border. If they keep adjusting downward, they can probably just borrow the fence from Bush’s ranch in Crawford. Actually, Bush can probably just leave it where it is and announce, “mission accomplished” – at least he would have “border security” against the illegals, even if the rest of us don’t.

Bush also said in his remarks that the bill would “uphold the great immigrant tradition of the United States of America.” What tradition is that Mr. President? The tradition I remember is one in which immigrants came to this nation legally – not by breaking our laws. They came here to learn our language (that would be English, Mr. Bush). They came to learn our culture, our traditions and our history. They came to assimilate, and become proud Americans. They waited their turn, and they played by the rules. This bill rewards those who have no desire to do any of that, and is an insult to all those who have. Our immigrant tradition was one of a “melting pot”. This bill doesn’t simply throw out the pot – it breaks it in the process.

“Don’t want to do what’s right for America” also begs the question, “which America”? I suspect Bush means a North America with no borders. Author and columnist Jerome Corsi has written of documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, concerning the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America. According to Corsi, the Bush Administration is “secretly on the path to create a North American Union, a new currency – the amero – along the same stealth path that was used in Europe, keeping everything below the radar, by administrative decree, making it too late to stop before the American people finally realize what’s going on.”

Whether or not you buy into a coming “North American Union”, there can be little doubt that this president is a globalist. His stance on immigration (both legal, and illegal), coupled with plans for a “NAFTA Superhighway” are the reflections of someone who is not concerned with such “petty” issues as border control or our national sovereignty. Mr. Bush seems to believe that the more immigrants, the better. Why? Cheap labor, of course. And of course there’s the notion that the illegals “do the jobs Americans won’t do”. The president should know the basic dishonesty of this myth – it isn’t that Americans won’t do those jobs, it’s that they won’t do them that cheaply. As I heard a local radio talkshow host say recently, “If you want a salad with your dinner, pony up the extra nickel so that an American citizen will pick your damn lettuce!”

That’s what this whole thing really comes down to – money. The reason the illegals come here is for money, and U.S. services (which cost us money). The drain on our resources is staggering. Hospitals in border towns have closed due to losses from treating illegal aliens with no insurance. All manner of services including welfare, food stamps and the like have been consumed due to the “anchor baby” provision in our current law. Robert Rector of the Heritage Foundation has just released a comprehensive report on the costs of illegal aliens. It is far too lengthy to cover in a short column, but its conclusions are astounding. From purely a taxes-to-benefits paid ratio, low-income immigrant households are receiving about three dollars in benefits and services for every dollar they pay in taxes. In business, that would be a negative cash flow problem of epic proportions.

Senate Bill 1348 must be stopped, but it will take continued grass roots action to do so.

You can stick a fork in the president – he’s done. True conservatives and those who wish to preserve the American culture know which side he is on. Call your congressmen and urge them to stop this destruction of our nation. Especially call those up for re-election in 2008.

The way to solve our crisis is not with lofty sounding “immigration reform” bills, nor “pathways to citizenship” – no, the answer lies in cutting off the source. Make the penalties so severe against employers knowingly hiring illegal aliens, that it becomes no longer worth the risk. Also cut out the “goodies” – reverse the law granting instant citizenship to babies born to illegal aliens while in the country (anchor babies). If the lure of jobs and “free” services dries up, so will the number of those would try to sneak over our border. That would be doing what is right for America.


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To: MNJohnnie

Another trashing. Thanks for proving my point.


61 posted on 06/02/2007 10:42:50 AM PDT by DManA
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To: MNJohnnie

Blah blah blah. Go hand out some GOP flyers or something.


62 posted on 06/02/2007 10:42:58 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: DManA

Marginalizing is all they have left. They can’t win the arguement with facts or history, so they resort to the lowest tactic available, ‘kill the messenger’. And no, the FROBL never offer any information, only insults. Pity them.


63 posted on 06/02/2007 10:44:47 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: AuntB
I thought this was amusing:

I suspect the "Conservative" establishment and it's drones really do not want to win.

Now you're in the conservative "establishment" AuntB.

64 posted on 06/02/2007 10:47:20 AM PDT by DManA
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To: MNJohnnie

Right, REMF, I’m hiding. Like I hid in the 60s and 70s.

You’re nothng but a loud mouthed keyboard warrior.


65 posted on 06/02/2007 10:49:53 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: DManA
Now you're in the conservative "establishment" AuntB.

I'll have you know I've been given a special name by the open border lobby as of yesterday for opposing amnesty..AuntBigot. Whatever, just do away with this stinkin' bill!

66 posted on 06/02/2007 10:50:52 AM PDT by AuntB (" It takes more than walking across the border to be an American." Duncan Hunter)
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To: MNJohnnie
Been my experience that people

Been my experience that people like you can only dream of the experiences of real warrios.

67 posted on 06/02/2007 10:54:35 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist; leadpenny
Come on just admit it. You all just want to vent your bile and hate about not getting ONLY 100% of ONLY what you want in politics.

The simple fact is you old Conservative are not at all interested in getting things done on any issue, you merely want to sit here on the side lines and mindlessly scream about everything. That why the ONLY solutions you people put up are mere slogans. You all scream things like "Enforce the laws" (Which hasn't worked to date) "Deport them" (How?) "Punish business that hire illegals" (again how?) etc while making utterly NO effort to actually explain how any of that would actually be done.

Face it, the Antis aren't really interested in any solutions on this topic, they just enjoy the excuse to rant and rave in the most hyper hysteric bile filled terms at a President they have always hated. EVEN if they got exactly what they wanted on this topic , they would be right back here tomorrow screaming about something else.

Frankly after 7 years, Most Conservatives are sick of this constant whining.

68 posted on 06/02/2007 11:00:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: GFritsch
Politicians must kowtow to political correctness or be destroyed by the system. That is more of a motivation for Republicans supporting virtually unlimited immigration than economics, indeed economics is largely a fig leaf they put over their subservience. After all, they supported mass immigration when the present economic arguments were hardly mentioned and during recession and high unemployment as well.
69 posted on 06/02/2007 11:00:29 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: leadpenny; MNJohnnie
Right, REMF, I’m hiding. Like I hid in the 60s and 70s.

You’re nothng but a loud mouthed keyboard warrior.

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100% accurate.

70 posted on 06/02/2007 11:08:52 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: MNJohnnie

Why’d you post that drivel filled rant to me, REMF? It doesn’t make sense anyway, and just proves my point that you are a loud mouthed wannabe warrior.


71 posted on 06/02/2007 11:12:21 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: MNJohnnie
If we didn't whine or "vent our bile" we'd be a third-world country.

Quit being a tool

72 posted on 06/02/2007 11:16:22 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: wtc911; MNJohnnie

I have this image of some screaming as they perform their keyboard warrior duties.

Screaming should be reserved for other intimate activities.


73 posted on 06/02/2007 11:16:43 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: MNJohnnie
>>Your sort of knee jerk back stabbing<<

Bush (and many other RINOs, but not all of them are insulting us publicly) is the back stabber. I can't remember even Bill Clinton, whom I despise, saying that his own base was not acting in the best interests of their country. Bush has made some good SCOTUS nominations, cut taxes, etc. Good. But remember Benedict Arnold was considered an American hero before he betrayed his country.

(Here comes the false accusation that I am not a conservative, etc. Watch.)


74 posted on 06/02/2007 11:19:27 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Illegals: representation without taxation--Citizens: taxation without representation)
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To: GFritsch; JackRyanCIA; leadpenny; wtc911; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Try proving me wrong. With no emotional hysterics, no out of control rhetoric and all the other usual diversionary tactics so loved by the flaming Right. What is the solution to the problem posed by the Illegals?

No slogans or trite simplistic answer. What do we do, how do we do it, what are the costs? We appoint you king, give you unlimited power. What do YOU do about the Illegals?

75 posted on 06/02/2007 11:22:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Johnnie, you have many unremarkable attributes, but one you don’t have is reading with comprehension in mind.

Quite frankly I’m not offended by the substance of your posts, because I don’t know what you’re trying to say most of the time. My gripe with you is that you appear to be hysterical. Take it or leave it - - calm down before your head explodes.


76 posted on 06/02/2007 11:33:14 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: newguy357

Don’t forget Socialist Global Warming (Scam) Protocols, which the president just this week has enthusiastically endorsed.


77 posted on 06/02/2007 11:33:20 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: MNJohnnie; GFritsch; JackRyanCIA; leadpenny; wtc911; Extremely Extreme Extremist
Start by enforcing laws against employers.

Nobody has the constitutional right to operate a business if the only way he can is by breaking the law. If a landscaper can't stay in business without under-paying illegals then let him find something else to do. If he habitually picks up illegal laborers then fine him every time he does, every time. He'll stop and others guilty of the same activity will too. Then Juan will stop waiting around at the 7-11 everyday. If he's not getting hired he's not getting paid, he'll go home.

As for Jorge Bush...

He said this to the WSJ...

"Mr. Bush is careful here, perhaps mindful of offending his white Republican base, but still gets to the same place: "Look, I won without 50% of the Hispanic vote, but I got a significant Hispanic vote. And the Hispanic vote is – it's Cubans, it is Puerto Ricans, it's Mexican Americans, it is Central Americans. I mean, it will be a significant vote. And I think it will – let me just say, it will be more likely the Republicans will win if viewed as sympathetic to immigration with a plan that upholds the rule of law and enforces the border."

Excuse me but don't only Americasns vote for POTUS?

And this...

""I think that some of the signals that people have seen are very disturbing to very patriotic Americans, such as people flying Mexican flags during immigration rallies," or "people here illegally straining the social services of different communities,"

Gee, Jorge, why should that bother us?

And this...

"this isn't the first time our country has had to wrestle with waves of immigration" – noting Italians, Irish, Jews."

How did those poor WASPS survive? And, johhny, what was illegal about these "waves of immigration"?

Your boy is selling us and our children down the river and you cheer for him while he does it,

78 posted on 06/02/2007 12:03:52 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get back down that hill?")
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To: roses of sharon

“They know they can’t beat the MSM machine, who will destroy them if they deport or cut off illegals, and they know their base will be pissed.”

And that is where their thinking is totally wrong!


79 posted on 06/02/2007 12:37:11 PM PDT by FReepapalooza
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To: MNJohnnie
Let me explain reality to you. I'll try keeping it in dollars and cents so you can make the human costs equivalent (if possible).

After the five year waiting period for the 86 Amnesty recipients to collect welfare was over, guess what happened to the local and state government budgets? It got so bad, the Democrat state legislators reached down and took the city's and county's portions of traffic fines and forfeitures.

It caught a lot of Sheriff's Departments that contracted with cities off guard, they were counting on that money for their budgets.

The largest single effect was drunk driving arrests. On Third watch, the patrol folks were expected to have their DUI quota's made by 9 o'clock in the evening so there would be little or no overtime. In-fact, there was pressure from supervisors to avoid any calls that would generate overtime, the public be damned!

It was never put into writing, but it became policy that any arrest within 3 hours of end of watch would be considered a sneaky way to get overtime(something like $28.00 p/h back then), and the officer's annual efficiency report would reflect that.

It reduced the number of arrests so badly, the tow truck companies, crooks all, began to be very generous with certain upper management types.

Ugly?

But that's reality in action. These illegals create far more costs than they do in revenue. All of Bush's whining and insults can't change that.

80 posted on 06/02/2007 12:39:54 PM PDT by investigateworld ( Those BP guys will do more prison time than many convicted Japanese war criminals ...thanks Bush!)
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