1 posted on
12/19/2005 11:20:49 AM PST by
NYCVOICE
To: NYCVOICE
they certainly don't support the confederacy :)
2 posted on
12/19/2005 11:24:29 AM PST by
kerryusama04
(The Bill of Rights is not occupation specific.)
To: NYCVOICE
Hmmmm,
republicans and unions...............
both claim to act in your best interest, but in reality only want your money.
That's the best I've got, hope it helps.
3 posted on
12/19/2005 11:26:51 AM PST by
WhiteGuy
(Vote for gridlock)
To: NYCVOICE
Why would a republican want to give his hard-earned paycheck to some union thug to speak for him or her?
Most republicans speak for themselves and take responsibility for the wages they earn or don't earn.
To: NYCVOICE
I dunno. Do you have any about Unions supporting Republicans?
5 posted on
12/19/2005 11:31:58 AM PST by
theDentist
(Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
To: NYCVOICE
I can report that The Chinese love American Unions.
To: NYCVOICE
I know several people who are Catholic and pro life but due to Unions in their life only vote Democrat. Go figure that one out.
8 posted on
12/19/2005 11:45:37 AM PST by
alisasny
(BYE B YE TOOKIE)
To: NYCVOICE
I've worked with unions as a company rep and in prevention--I've been Republican/Libertarian for thirty years. Usually it is a fact a union wants dues paying members and offers their representative services in exchange. Should the company be in a bargaining situation, sometimes there can be agreement, but I've never seen a situation where the union didn't oversell their value--its also in their interest most of the time to foment a we versus they atmosphere, most unfortunate. One key item to remember in a debate is that the company cannot be forced to do anything in negotiations it wouldn't do without a union. The union can get nothing for the employees the company isn't willing to give. Best thing to do is get ahead of the curve on this.
I can see where in some circumstances it is possible to have a contract and run pretty well. The danger is allowing or putting anything into the contract that would have the effect of hindering necessary changes in order to remain competitive. And that's possible. Generally it's true the organization only gets the union it deserves--usually because of dumb management decisions, arbitrary changes to wages, hours and working conditions, or because company reps forget their employees are human too--and no better or worse than they are.
To suggest an interest in the GOP supporting unions is tough--certainly a fair NLRB (including the so-called administrative law judges) and a fair General Counsel would be issues the GOP should be working for with all the might they can--a number of us may support that.
To support unions for the sake of organizing is more challenging. Usually when there is an organizing attempt, it is an adversarial situation from the start.
Given the history of unions and their propaganda for socialist/democratic candidates, the leadership has poisoned the well. I would rather see them dissolve into obscure obsolescence than grow in any sector. Their game is money as much as its the company's lifeblood. Many suck some of that away and that's all they are--bloodsuckers on the bodies of working folks.
Some of the modern contracts with the UAW are exceptional though and workable for everyone involved. But they are still bloodsuckers who never contribute one thing to the sales of product. My three cents worth.
9 posted on
12/19/2005 12:01:32 PM PST by
BamaAndy
(Heart & Iron--the story of America through an ordinary family. ISBN: 1-4137-5397-3)
To: NYCVOICE
Shelley Moore Capito was supported by the United Mine Workers last election. Does that count?
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