To: pageonetoo
Didn't Jesus say "Judge not lest ye be judged"?
To: conserv13
9Then Saul, who was also called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked straight at Elymas and said, 10"You are a child of the devil and an enemy of everything that is right! You are full of all kinds of deceit and trickery. Will you never stop perverting the right ways of the Lord? 11Now the hand of the Lord is against you. You are going to be blind, and for a time you will be unable to see the light of the sun."
75 posted on
09/23/2005 1:31:03 PM PDT by
pageonetoo
(You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
To: conserv13
Oh, now you've done it! ;)
82 posted on
09/23/2005 2:26:22 PM PDT by
pa mom
To: conserv13; pageonetoo
>>Didn't Jesus say "Judge not lest ye be judged"?<<
I really find it bothersome when people fall back on this passage, take it entirely out of context, and use it as a way of "proving" that we can't make discerned judgements.
There is righteous judgement and unrighteous judgement. Scripture tells us to test everything (to Scripture) (1 Thess 5v21), to hold people accountable (Ezekiel 33v6), to avoid evil (1 Thess 5v22), to avoid false teachers (1 Tim 1ff), and to not yolk ourselves with non-believers (2 Cor 6v14).
Can't do any of that without making a judgement, can you?
There is a difference.
Examples:
Unrighteous Judgement - "You're going to hell because of what you said!"
Righteous Judgement - "What you said does not line up with Scripture, and is therefore wrong."
1 Cor 5 is meaningless without Paul making a righteous judgement of the Corintian church.
Galatians 1v6-9; the same
Paul's instructions in Titus 2:15 is rendered irrelevant
God is the ultimate judge of our hearts, but we are commanded to hold things in the light of Scripture, and discern between what is right and what is wrong, what is good and what is evil. And you can't do any of that without making a judgement.
93 posted on
09/23/2005 5:00:30 PM PDT by
ItsOurTimeNow
("Heart of my own heart, whatever befall")
To: conserv13
Didn't Jesus say "Judge not lest ye be judged"?
Are you a lib or something? You sure do break out their usual cliches about Christianity.
By your logic, no one can judge anything then, lest they be judged. Hence, anarchy and chaos will rule for eternity.
To: conserv13
Didn't Jesus say "Judge not lest ye be judged"?
Are you a lib or something? You sure do break out their usual cliches about Christianity.
By your logic, no one can judge anything then, lest they be judged. Hence, anarchy and chaos will rule for eternity.
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