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The Marijuana Conspiracy - The Real Reason Hemp is Illegal
illuminati-news.com ^ | 2005 | Doug Yurchey

Posted on 06/19/2005 6:30:01 AM PDT by blabs

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To: Paloma_55

> "I grew hemp" - George Washington

* Thomas Edison constructed the first electric light bulb out of hemp. The Pony Express stage coaches were made from hemp.

* Not only did George Washington smoke hemp, but Paul Revere, Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams and Governeur Morris did too. The Declaration of Independence was made out of hemp, and after they all signed it, they smoked it.

* The real reason hemp is illegal is that the military-industrial complex, the Republican Party, Haliburton, Microsoft, the Boston Red Sox, and the entire state of California stand to lose Trillions!


21 posted on 06/19/2005 7:19:24 AM PDT by cloud8 (--taking off my tinfoil hat now)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes, but that's indicative of almost everything.

We would be much better off if congress was limited to only 3 months of sessions per year. And they were paid accordingly.


22 posted on 06/19/2005 7:22:32 AM PDT by flashbunny
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To: Delta 21; blabs
"It's fun to read the ridiculous puritanistic comments, especially from the ultra-conservatives, who are busy masturbating on their favorite porn site, relieving last nights binge-drinking hangover, telling us all evil things are."

Many people of this forum can discuss hemp in a mostly intellectual fashion. However it appears that blabs has something other than an intellectual motive for posting the article.

23 posted on 06/19/2005 7:22:40 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: flashbunny
If the pro-legalization crowd just kept to the facts and the unconstitutionality of the federal WOD,they might win the converts.But going for the giant conspiracy-theory angle never works. It just makes people think you are crazy, no matter if you're right or not.

Conspiracy or not, it's obvious there's been a lot of questionable tactics used by the government on the issue from the very beginning. Why name a bill the "Marijuana Tax Act" at a time when very few people had ever heard the term, but virtually everyone knew what hemp was? The only reason to do something like that is if you're trying to hide something, and just serves to fuel speculation on what it is.

24 posted on 06/19/2005 7:27:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: stopem

I haven't seen any "devastation". WHat I have seen are hardworking, taxpaying, otherwise law-abiding citizens who prefer a joint to a six-pack, myself included.


25 posted on 06/19/2005 7:28:04 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Enterprise
Perhaps you missed the sarcasm, or maybe I should have put the /saracasm so that your intellect could have grabbed it. My only motive is to open discussion, in order to open the mind. Humor is just one of the byproducts.

Intellect away....
26 posted on 06/19/2005 7:30:35 AM PDT by blabs
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To: Enterprise

Wish I had the time to refute some of the junk in the dissertation.


27 posted on 06/19/2005 7:32:40 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Enterprise
However, if we are talking about a product such as hemp that is intended to be grown and used on a national basis, then that is interstate commerce and regulation of it is constitutional.

You should read the Federalist Papers, and other writings of the founders on the issue of what is and is not "commerce", as well as what their concept of what "regulation" of said commerce involved. I don't beleive you can objectively justify that statement without rejecting their definitions of those terms and replacing them with others that are substantially different.

28 posted on 06/19/2005 7:39:58 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: blabs

Very poor job of sarcasm.


29 posted on 06/19/2005 7:45:48 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: blabs
The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.

Point me to an authoritative source for any of these. An authoritative source is NOT a pro-legalization website that makes these claims.

30 posted on 06/19/2005 7:47:37 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: blabs

Powerful central governments run by two political parties that agree they should run a powerful central government is great for giant corporations and powerful special interests. They can pay the party leaders to get one of the most valuable agricultural products in history (hemp) morphed into a deadly weed (marijuana).

How much would commercial forest land owned by giant forest products corporations be worth if America's family farms were meeting a significant portion of America's fiber needs with commercial hemp? How much market share would oil companies lose if hemp based lubricants were allowed to compete with petroleum based lubricants?

How much would the U.S. Litigation Industry lose in lawyer fees if hemp were legal? How much would the U.S. Incarceration Industry lose in taxpayer funded government checks if hemp were legal?

Powerful political parties are not designed to protect the individual liberty and promote the private property rights of citizens. Non-partisan elections at all levels of government is the only conceivable way for a democracy to protect individual liberty and promote the private property rights of citizens. In a democracy, political parties should be lobbying organizations and nothing more.


31 posted on 06/19/2005 7:57:57 AM PDT by yoswif
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To: Enterprise

yeah, it was meant to make a hypocritical point..


32 posted on 06/19/2005 8:02:07 AM PDT by blabs
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To: Sacajaweau

It takes just as much time to take a cheap shot. You have convinced no one except those who believe as you do. Preaching to the choir is easy.


33 posted on 06/19/2005 8:03:09 AM PDT by Delta 21 (MKC USCG -ret)
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To: yoswif

democracies are not designed to protect individual liberties. The are collective in their nature. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.


34 posted on 06/19/2005 8:04:30 AM PDT by blabs
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To: tacticalogic
I think the ban on hemp growing should be lifted. I disagree with Government prosecutions of medicinal marijuana users. That much we may agree upon.

The free flow of products across state lines is the purview of the Federal Government. For instance, a farmer may grow corn in one state and ship it to, or through, another state which also grows corn, without worries that the corn will be taxed by the neighboring State or some other State. Commercial hemp would fall under that type of regulatory protection also. If it is shipped from one state to, or through another, it is interstate commerce.

35 posted on 06/19/2005 8:05:08 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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To: blabs
democracies are not designed to protect individual liberties. The are collective in their nature. A democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner.

Your post reminded me of a Churchill quote:

"It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."

36 posted on 06/19/2005 8:10:28 AM PDT by Pharmboy (There is no positive correlation between the ability to write, act, sing or dance and being right)
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So, in essence churchill only knew of what has existed and what has been tried, not what is to come or what is possible.

I'll take a constitutional republic, minus special interests.
37 posted on 06/19/2005 8:14:26 AM PDT by blabs
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To: blabs
...hemp linen.

This is stupid. Hemp is not linen. Linen is another plant.

38 posted on 06/19/2005 8:14:55 AM PDT by D Rider
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To: D Rider

Linen is a generic term often associated wih cloth. Surely you must have better points...


39 posted on 06/19/2005 8:22:30 AM PDT by blabs
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To: blabs
"yeah, it was meant to make a hypocritical point."

I don't favor the legalization of marijuana. I do however, favor the legalization of commercial hemp growing, and I support medicinal marijuana. For reasons known only to you, you linked porn to hemp as an example of hypocrisy. You might have chosen a better example of hypocrisy.

40 posted on 06/19/2005 8:22:49 AM PDT by Enterprise (Coming soon from Newsweek: "Fallujah - we had to destroy it in order to save it.")
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