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Conclusions of the U.S.-Mexico Migration Panel
Caregie Endowment for International Peace/Global Policy Program website ^ | February 15, 2001 | Caregie Endowment for International Peace / Kerry Boyd

Posted on 05/12/2005 5:55:18 PM PDT by JesseJane

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To: JesseJane
KK, This article appeared in NewsMax.com magazine. The article was titled EPA Website: No U.S. Border, in the November 15, 2001 issue vol 3 number 12, page 25

I couldn't find it in Newsmax's archives, nor in the summer of 2004's Economist. Oh well. But the article in your original post which started it all is locatable -- and maddening enough! I wish more people would wake up to this before it's too late -- if it's not already.

61 posted on 05/14/2005 10:50:08 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: KittyKares

KK,
I still HAVE the actual magazine where this appeared.

I just contacted NewsMax Magazine at 1-800-485-4349 and spoke with customer service. They do have a copy available for sale. $4.95 + $5.95shipping&handling.


62 posted on 05/14/2005 11:11:38 AM PDT by JesseJane ((Close the borders))
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To: KittyKares

KK,
I still HAVE the actual magazine where this appeared.

I just contacted NewsMax Magazine at 1-800-485-4349 and spoke with customer service. They do have a copy available for sale. $4.95 + $5.95shipping&handling.


63 posted on 05/14/2005 11:11:39 AM PDT by JesseJane ((Close the borders))
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To: JesseJane

1-Improve the treatment of Mexican migrants." Okay-but first they must renounce their Mexican citizenship, break all ties with that government corrupted country and swear absolute aliegence to the USA.

2-Okay-but let's demand that human rights be protected throughout , corrupt Mexica as well as their border region. This would surely reduce the flight of Mexicans from the tyrant's who leech off their wages until they have nothing left for their families.

3-Okay, the USA is willing to contribute a mile wide stretch along our southern border for the purpose of forming a viable, no-man's land, heavily mined and surveyed 24/7 in order to guarantee it continued viability, assuming of course that Mexico agrees to do the same along it's northern border.

4-Mexico must first purge it's own government, (of the thieves and despots, by the thieves and despots and for the thieves and despots) of corruption, or same as always in Mexico, the only ones benefitting from the economy, whether good bad or so so, will be those same damn leeches.

As for that special migration policy that Meyers would have us extend to Canadians and Mexicans.A considerable herd of the world socialistic, liberal and anti every thing we stand for critic's are Mexican and Canadian, and I can't think of any rational reason for giving these snobs preferrential treatment in their desire to come and live among people they despise. But as I said earlier, if we are stupid enough to extend special immigration priviliges to those whose only apparent reason for coming here is to either loot our economy or destroy us from within-they must first renounce the culture that drove them to this land of UGLY Americans, and pledge aliegence to this ugly country, and to the ugliness for which we stand.

Truth and righteousness can only be percieved as ugly by the liars and the unrighteousness......excluding the few of course who don't know the difference.


64 posted on 05/14/2005 11:12:50 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (If bullsh*t was fuel-the liberal dems would be a national......nay...... international treasure.)
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To: JesseJane

Thank you for going through all that trouble! I'll call them. I've never seen a print version of their magazine anyway.


65 posted on 05/14/2005 11:20:27 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: tertiary01

PS.. this was an EXCELLENT FIND.


66 posted on 05/14/2005 11:20:54 AM PDT by JesseJane ((Close the borders))
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To: JesseJane

I called and got the exact same person you spoke with! Once I said November 15, she knew which year I wanted. She said she had just spoken with you.

Thanks again! Keep up the good work of keeping us informed.


67 posted on 05/14/2005 11:26:28 AM PDT by KittyKares
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To: F.J. Mitchell

FJ, this thing of border erasure is in full motion.

When you read about BORDER XXI, above..go to the website, you'll see there are meetings going on about it NOW.
The Good Neighbor Environmental Board (GNEB)

Also, read post 60. It directly relates to Border XXI. Go to the website, as it's really easier to read there.

This push started over a decade ago. Damn............

The globalists and lefties are so close to eliminating our sovereignty it is unbelievable!! (Not trying to be a drama queen here). If Kerry would've won this election, the fat lady would have just begun to sing of America's demise... to the rabid applause of unwitting ignorant Democrat audience.

We have got to understand that fighting this illegal alien battle is going to fall to we the people, as it is to me, truly the last gasp of the republic. It's part of 'the plan'. 2006 is going to be a make or break election. But we have a lot of work to do before then. Which is why we see pressure coming from Fox now. JMHO..


68 posted on 05/14/2005 11:36:00 AM PDT by JesseJane ((Close the borders))
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To: KittyKares

Yay!
You are most welcome. And thank you!


69 posted on 05/14/2005 11:36:32 AM PDT by JesseJane ((Close the borders))
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To: JesseJane

Thanks for posting the thread. I believe we will find that this border situation is much more complicated than just protecting our borders.

Some of our problems also might be fallout from the Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo.


70 posted on 05/14/2005 11:39:04 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: tertiary01

Treaty of Guadalupe Hildalgo.

Dang, more homework! :)

Thanks tertiary01.


71 posted on 05/14/2005 11:40:28 AM PDT by JesseJane ((Close the borders))
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To: JesseJane
" We are on the same side brother, even if we don't agree on every single ding-dang point.. :)"

Hear ya on all counts, JJ -- Your points are well taken.

72 posted on 05/14/2005 11:58:12 AM PDT by dreammaker
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To: dreammaker

BTT - this thread has indispensable information and links. Thanks to all!


73 posted on 05/14/2005 12:46:40 PM PDT by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: HiJinx

I know this is a tad old, but I think it might be of interest to the borders list.

Possible Ping...


74 posted on 05/14/2005 6:47:25 PM PDT by AZ_Cowboy ("Be ever vigilant, for you know not when the master is coming")
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To: texastoo

bttt


75 posted on 05/15/2005 1:32:27 AM PDT by lainde
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To: Happy2BMe

Read this site. This thread has more insite than any I have seen regarding our borders.


76 posted on 05/15/2005 10:18:37 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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To: texastoo

I think you should read it all, as I see it as a way to get people to go home. I have a neighbor who is a naturalized American, retired who is living in FL solely because SS cut his benefits in half when he lived on land he owns in Mexico. I think everybody would rather live in his own culture and any policy that encourages return is best in my book.


77 posted on 05/16/2005 8:13:00 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: JesseJane

This argument that illegals are paying taxes is bogus. They are part of the underground economy, mainly. When they present fake social security cards and employers deduct and pay FICA it goes into an anonymous account that they cannot collect from. I am for normalizing this and getting these people signed up and matched with employers. We will catch a lot of bad guys that way and set up enforcement mechanisms, too as well as increase tax revenues. Some will leave because they cannot meet criteria.


78 posted on 05/16/2005 8:20:00 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: ClaireSolt
I am sorry clairesolt, I couldn't disagree with you more. This is not just about jobs, cheap labor etc., this is about losing our sovereignty, and becoming just a global trade zone, under the governance of the UN. Being an "American citizen" vanishes with the erasure of borders. Mexico, Central Americans will have a voting voice in our Government. I do not want the voice of corrupt coutries choosing our leaders,though they are already doing that through radical leftist lobbies.
Playing the raza card

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In addition, they, along with his eminence, Mexican President Vicente Fox, believe they should be allowed to vote in our elections as well as Mexico's, even if they know less English than I know Greek

The guest worker program is nothing more than a manipulation of visas to allow more illegals in this country. It's easier and faster than having them go through the process of becoming legal citizens/residents. I just don't buy into it.

79 posted on 05/16/2005 8:29:38 AM PDT by JesseJane
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To: ClaireSolt

So you are saying that the SSA just automatically increased his payments when he moved to Florida? Have you seen these documents where he was cut or where he got an increase of 50% more? For some reason I don't bellieve this, as there are Americans who retire in Mexico with full benefits. The reason they choose Mexico is because it is cheaper to live there.


80 posted on 05/16/2005 9:13:05 AM PDT by texastoo (a "has-been" Republican)
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