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To: Axhandle
Let us assume that all of their arguments are correct - that Bush lied, that we are just here for oil, that there never were any weapons of mass destruction.  What does any of that have to do with Iraq violating the terms of the Desert Storm cease fire?  What does it have to do with Iraq being run by a brutal authoritarian regime? 

Nothing. But absent a threat to the US, what concern of our government to invade Iraq?

Why start with Iraq to break brutal authoritarian regimes? We could have invaded a lot of other countries and saved more lives per buck and per US casualty.

And assuming that Bush lied, doesn't that present a concern to a people fit for self-rule?

6 posted on 04/30/2005 10:17:26 AM PDT by secretagent
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To: secretagent
"Nothing. But absent a threat to the US, what concern of our government to invade Iraq?"

Two reasons:
1) We have recognized that governments not responsive to their people pose a threat to us.
2) We agreed to terms for a cease fire after Desert Storm. Iraq refused to comply with those terms, after agreeing to them. After 12 years of sanctions, UN resolutions, and Tomohawk strikes, they still refused to comply. The only logical recourse was military force.

"Why start with Iraq to break brutal authoritarian regimes? We could have invaded a lot of other countries and saved more lives per buck and per US casualty."

I am not sure which countries you are referrring to - perhaps we still have viable diplomatic, information and economic options available, before we resort to military force?

"And assuming that Bush lied, doesn't that present a concern to a people fit for self-rule?"

Yes.

7 posted on 04/30/2005 11:01:05 AM PDT by Axhandle
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To: secretagent

".....Nothing. But absent a threat to the US, what concern of our government to invade Iraq?"

Actually, there was a threat to the US. Have you ever heard of Salmon Pac? A little training base in Iraq, close to Bagdhad, which had, according to witnesses, ongoing training sessions which included "how to sieze a Boeing 707, 727,or 747 with box cutters". Sound familiar? In addition, contrary to public opinion and media reports, there were NUMEROUS chemical agents found. One of the reasons not all of Hussein's "crack" troops were in the field attacking us is that a full battalion was encamped around an insecticide plant, protecting it. Why protect an insecticide plant you might ask? Well, perhaps it would be a good idea to check into what most insecticides actually are.....Nerve agents. It only takes a little more distillation to make them into effective HUMAN nerve agents. Hmmmmmmmm. Interesting.
In other words, did Bush lie, or, heaven forbid, is it the media and leftists telling us Bush lied? Remember the old Communist teaching, "if you tell a lie often enough, people will accept it for the truth....." Is there something here? Hmmmmm?


9 posted on 08/09/2006 12:55:41 PM PDT by adam916
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