Posted on 11/12/2004 1:20:27 PM PST by PJ-Comix
A little hint for those of you attempting to infiltrate DummieLand---Dont post threads over there praising Hillary. It is a sure giveaway that you are really a Freeper. The fact is most DUmmies DONT like Hillary either as a person or as an electible candidate. They will be VERY SUSPICIOUS of anybody posting threads favorable to Hillary. Oh, a little sidenote here. I often go to flea markets looking for books. Many, many bestsellers there such as by Stephen King or Tom Clancey. All the bestselling books eventually make their way through the recycling circles to the flea markets. But guess what? What is supposedly one of the best selling books of all times---Lying History by Hillary---is RARELY seen at the flea markets. In fact I saw only ONE copy of this book the other day and it is was in MINT CONDITION (never read). So if Hillarys book was such a MASSIVE best seller why doesnt it appear at the flea markets? Perhaps they are still sitting in those warehouses where her labor union pals dumped them after making their Hillary contributions via the book route. Just food for thought here. Anyway, sit back, relax, and laugh at this DUmmie THREAD entitled, Does anyone else think Hillary would be a disastrous nominee in 2008?. As usual the DUmmie rantings are in Bolshevik Red while the observations of your humble correspondent are in the [brackets]:
Does anyone else think Hillary would be a disastrous nominee in 2008?
[Yes, so PLEASE nominate her.]
Folks, I like Hillary. But for whatever reason, she is (unfairly) hated, loathed, and despised by a not insignificant segment of the population who will stop at nothing to defeat her.
[Replace the unfairly with fairly and your statement is close to reaching coherence.]
In other words, she's got too much baggage. She's toxic. The last thing we need in 2008 is to dredge up all the old hatreds and rivalries of the Clinton era. We need a fresh start--a new leader who can talk to the country with a clean slate.
[John Kerry?]
yeah, she would get creamed in the same states as Kerry but of course the primary system works well for those that appeal to the base, not the general, so Hillary would be tough to beat. But the meme for picking Kerry was "because he has the best chance of beating Bush", so perhaps we can be pragmatic as a party out of power and pick someone like Bayh or Warner.
[Too bad Bayh doesnt pass the abortion litmus test. He voted to ban partial birth abortions thus taking him out of the running as Democrat Presidential nominee.]
I agree Hillary will engergize the repukes like not other candidate. We would get creamed. She doesn't have her husbands charisma to defend herself. Lets keep her where she is.
[No. Lets nominate her. I like to see you creamed.]
I think she, justified or not, represents an old face of the Democratic Party that needs to be removed. If I remember correctly, she was booed at that televised convention for victims of Sept. 11? I also think she's in it for the power and control. In my mind, if she was worth her salt, she would have ditched Bill when the Monica scandal broke. She didn't, so I figure she only stayed because she wanted to be near power. People who simply want power for power's sake are not to be trusted.
[Hmmm .I wont give you away but you are revealing too many tells of a Freeper infiltrator in Dummieland. Please develop a more convincing Dummie alter ego technique. But then, we cant all be professionals like your Humble Correspondent.]
I think she would be a great Pres. but the mere sight of her throws the other side into a fury. We need to put her on the back burner until we take back solid control of this country.
[By that time, Hillary would be a mummy.]
she's not tough enough, appeases too much screw hilary
[At least we know Bill hasnt, mopaul.]
I can't stand her....but she is tough enough. But please democrats, don't give the repubs their wet dream....enough with the Hillary talk.
[Its tough to think of Hillary giving anybody a wet dream.]
Now it is suddenly clear to me, after the Bush "mandate," just how badly we would lose if we ran Hillary. We need a tough, plain-spoken populaist, prefarbly Southern, and preferably a potential "beer buddy."
[Sorry, but Billy Carter is NOT available.]
Yes I do. I really do not like her. I like her as a Senator, but she has been poisoned by the DLC and the DNC as they now stand. Out with the old guard, in with some fresh, new faces.
[Chelsea?]
She would not win a single red state.
[And probably even fewer Blue States.]
FAUX "news" is SO aggressively pushing her to run in 2008. PLEASE don't fall into this trap. Hillary would lose and lose BIG. 75% of the people in this country cringe at the name "Clinton". She's damaged goods. Facts suck, but it's still an old white boys club. I want to WIN, not set a precedent and alienate.
[I absolute disagree with your statement. 95% of the people in this country cringe at her name.]
She botched healthcare so bad that it fell out of public discourse for a decade. Her gaffe-filled carpetbagger campaign in New York netted her a slimmer margin over Rick Partyhack than Gore had over Bush in the state. Her Senate record has no standout acheivements that I know of.
[On the upside she does have the biggest Senate office of any of her fellow Democrats.]
Now that I know that she supports outsourcing, I think she's even worse, and heck, I don't blame Bill for straying from the nest.
[I dont blame him for straying from the Hillary nest either but couldnt the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES done just a wee bit better than Monica?]
She'd get McGoverned. Does the party really want to nominate another elitist, northeast liberal senator?
[GO FOR IT!!!]
Hillary would be worse than Kerry. She's Kerry in a dress, and the RW would hate her more because she's a woman. It would insult their "manhood".
[Kerry in drag. Now thats an interesting thought. I bet Edwards would love that sight.]
All of this talk about running Hillary Clinton in 2008. The RNC has been ready to destroy her since 1994. The strategy that took the House and Senate away from Clinton was designed and largely financed by me.
[A DUmmie designed and financed the Republican strategy of winning the House and Senate in 1994? Is that Peyote youre smoking or just straight crack?]
I think Clarkies are fabulous. I just do not trust Clark.
[LOL!]
Yes. I will not support, no matter what, even if I get kicked off DU. Worst mistake ever. She does not have the trust of the anti war people and the right wing would kill us all before the let her be elected. I voted for her for here in NY and after her war vote I decided to never again support her.
[But to give Hillary her credit, she is an EXCELLENT investor in cattle futures. You think you could turn a $1000 investment into $100,000 in just a year in that market, hotshot?]
I love her to bits, but living amidst freepers, i can tell you right now, we might as well run al sharpton. she's the punchline to most of their lame jokes.
[Al Sharpton in 08? Hmmm . I LIKE that idea!]
I would rather see Boxer/Lewis.. John Lewis would electrify the campaign, and he deserves a bigger stage than congressman from Georgia.
[Give me a chance to take a few hits off the crack pipe. Ill need it to even consider this a feasible ticket.]
Absolute worst choice, Christ, I'd vote for Sharpton before her.
[WHOA! Am I seeing a big groundswell for Sharpton here?]
I respect and even like her, but she's waaaay to far to the right. And then there's the bitter hatred so many have for her. Forget her. I say Obama!!!!
[Forget her. I say Fidel!!!!]
If she gets the nomination, I will invest absolutely nothing of myself in that election. She will get my vote and that's it. Look foreward to a Repuke landslide.
[HILLARY! HILLARY! HILLARY!]
I saw her on Letterman several months ago and he was asking her about the War on Terra and I couldn't detect the first whiff of dissent. On top of that, I absolutely hated the glib, passionless way she answered his questions.
[Glib and passionless. Sort of like her Lying History book.]
she is an extermely polarizing figure. She would probably NEVER win nationally. If you thought the smear campaign the republicans waged against John Kerry was bad, just wait until Hillary runs. I shudder to think what they have in store for Hillary.
[Her track record.]
She is a terrible speaker. When she projects her voice she gets shrill. She would be a disaster on the stump.
[Um you know I just think you know that your you know assertion just might be you know .an exaggeration.]
She too easily falls into the stereotype of the "shrill, powerhungry feminist". Plus all of the Clinton baggage. Plus I don't think she has core beliefs. Our candidate must have core beliefs, integrity and political courage this time around; Hillary has none of those. People have a visceral dislike of Hillary the same way they do Martha Stewart. Of course there's some sexism involved, but it has much more to do with the perception that she's an elitist who looks down on the "little people".
[Martha Stewart! Now there is a woman to seriously consider for the 08 ticket. Sort of like Hillary but not nearly as repulsive.]
You're not going to see a Northeastern Democrat run successfully in 2008, be it Hillary or Dean or Jesus H. Christ.
[Ive always wondered Does the H in Jesus H. Christ stand for Hillary?]
a Hillary candidacy would be a poison pill. If it looks bleak now, that might be the death knell for the left ever electing a president.
[Take two poison pills and go to sleep ..permanently. ]
If we like getting our ass kicked...then pick Hilary. But who in the hell else can we pick?
[Janet Reno?]
Common sense says that she's a losing bet...BUT I can't help but feel that she is being "ordained" for the Presidency by forces beyond our ordinary control.
[I believe they are called Satanic forces.]
Unless BBV is fixed, no Democratic nominee stands a chance.
[The settings on the Diebold machines are already fixed to go 2 to 1 against her in 08.]
Maybe Chelsea some day, but not Hillary.
[First we need to wean Chelsea away from beer and then she needs to actually SAY something in public. Chelsea 2020?]
LOL
I haven't, didn't, and won't vote for bobdoles just b/c they're running as an "R." I wrote in the name "Keyes" in '96. I know more about him, now, so that won't happen again. I'm not a broken-glass Republican. I did vote for W.
we all have a lot to be thankful for come thanksgiving day!
private thoughts should be kept to oneself...or do progressive thinkers have a problem with their brain -- mouth coordination?
Glad to hear it! Independent thought will always beat lemmings!
My thoughts as well. Gee, these intellectually superior and enlightened people should realize that the internet is accessable to what .... a billion people?
Intellectual property, indeed.
Actually that isn't Skinner. It is "Skinner."
Now there's an oxymoron if I've ever heard one....
Yeah. I caught that. :-)
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