Will that work?
Posted on 11/12/2004 1:20:27 PM PST by PJ-Comix
A little hint for those of you attempting to infiltrate DummieLand---Don’t post threads over there praising Hillary. It is a sure giveaway that you are really a Freeper. The fact is most DUmmies DON’T like Hillary either as a person or as an electible candidate. They will be VERY SUSPICIOUS of anybody posting threads favorable to Hillary. Oh, a little sidenote here. I often go to flea markets looking for books. Many, many bestsellers there such as by Stephen King or Tom Clancey. All the bestselling books eventually make their way through the recycling circles to the flea markets. But guess what? What is supposedly one of the best selling books of all times---“Lying History” by Hillary---is RARELY seen at the flea markets. In fact I saw only ONE copy of this book the other day and it is was in MINT CONDITION (never read). So if Hillary’s book was such a MASSIVE best seller why doesn’t it appear at the flea markets? Perhaps they are still sitting in those warehouses where her labor union pals dumped them after making their Hillary contributions via the book route. Just food for thought here. Anyway, sit back, relax, and laugh at this DUmmie THREAD entitled, “Does anyone else think Hillary would be a disastrous nominee in 2008?”. As usual the DUmmie rantings are in Bolshevik Red while the observations of your humble correspondent are in the [brackets]:
Does anyone else think Hillary would be a disastrous nominee in 2008?
[Yes, so PLEASE nominate her.]
Folks, I like Hillary. But for whatever reason, she is (unfairly) hated, loathed, and despised by a not insignificant segment of the population who will stop at nothing to defeat her.
[Replace the “unfairly” with “fairly” and your statement is close to reaching coherence.]
In other words, she's got too much baggage. She's toxic. The last thing we need in 2008 is to dredge up all the old hatreds and rivalries of the Clinton era. We need a fresh start--a new leader who can talk to the country with a clean slate.
[John Kerry?]
yeah, she would get creamed in the same states as Kerry but of course the primary system works well for those that appeal to the base, not the general, so Hillary would be tough to beat. But the meme for picking Kerry was "because he has the best chance of beating Bush", so perhaps we can be pragmatic as a party out of power and pick someone like Bayh or Warner.
[Too bad Bayh doesn’t pass the abortion litmus test. He voted to ban partial birth abortions thus taking him out of the running as Democrat Presidential nominee.]
I agree Hillary will engergize the repukes like not other candidate. We would get creamed. She doesn't have her husbands charisma to defend herself. Lets keep her where she is.
[No. Let’s nominate her. I like to see you creamed.]
I think she, justified or not, represents an old face of the Democratic Party that needs to be removed. If I remember correctly, she was booed at that televised convention for victims of Sept. 11? I also think she's in it for the power and control. In my mind, if she was worth her salt, she would have ditched Bill when the Monica scandal broke. She didn't, so I figure she only stayed because she wanted to be near power. People who simply want power for power's sake are not to be trusted.
[Hmmm….I won’t give you away but you are revealing too many tells of a Freeper infiltrator in Dummieland. Please develop a more convincing Dummie alter ego technique. But then, we can’t all be professionals like your Humble Correspondent.]
I think she would be a great Pres. but the mere sight of her throws the other side into a fury. We need to put her on the back burner until we take back solid control of this country.
[By that time, Hillary would be a mummy.]
she's not tough enough, appeases too much screw hilary
[At least we know Bill hasn’t, mopaul.]
I can't stand her....but she is tough enough. But please democrats, don't give the repubs their wet dream....enough with the Hillary talk.
[It’s tough to think of Hillary giving anybody a wet dream.]
Now it is suddenly clear to me, after the Bush "mandate," just how badly we would lose if we ran Hillary. We need a tough, plain-spoken populaist, prefarbly Southern, and preferably a potential "beer buddy."
[Sorry, but Billy Carter is NOT available.]
Yes I do. I really do not like her. I like her as a Senator, but she has been poisoned by the DLC and the DNC as they now stand. Out with the old guard, in with some fresh, new faces.
[Chelsea?]
She would not win a single red state.
[And probably even fewer Blue States.]
FAUX "news" is SO aggressively pushing her to run in 2008. PLEASE don't fall into this trap. Hillary would lose and lose BIG. 75% of the people in this country cringe at the name "Clinton". She's damaged goods. Facts suck, but it's still an old white boys club. I want to WIN, not set a precedent and alienate.
[I absolute disagree with your statement. 95% of the people in this country cringe at her name.]
She botched healthcare so bad that it fell out of public discourse for a decade. Her gaffe-filled carpetbagger campaign in New York netted her a slimmer margin over Rick Partyhack than Gore had over Bush in the state. Her Senate record has no standout acheivements that I know of.
[On the upside she does have the biggest Senate office of any of her fellow Democrats.]
Now that I know that she supports outsourcing, I think she's even worse, and heck, I don't blame Bill for straying from the nest.
[I don’t blame him for straying from the Hillary nest either but couldn’t the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES done just a wee bit better than Monica?]
She'd get McGoverned. Does the party really want to nominate another elitist, northeast liberal senator?
[GO FOR IT!!!]
Hillary would be worse than Kerry. She's Kerry in a dress, and the RW would hate her more because she's a woman. It would insult their "manhood".
[Kerry in drag. Now that’s an interesting thought. I bet Edwards would love that sight.]
All of this talk about running Hillary Clinton in 2008. The RNC has been ready to destroy her since 1994. The strategy that took the House and Senate away from Clinton was designed and largely financed by me.
[A DUmmie designed and financed the Republican strategy of winning the House and Senate in 1994? Is that Peyote you’re smoking or just straight crack?]
I think Clarkies are fabulous. I just do not trust Clark.
[LOL!]
Yes. I will not support, no matter what, even if I get kicked off DU. Worst mistake ever. She does not have the trust of the anti war people and the right wing would kill us all before the let her be elected. I voted for her for here in NY and after her war vote I decided to never again support her.
[But to give Hillary her credit, she is an EXCELLENT investor in cattle futures. You think you could turn a $1000 investment into $100,000 in just a year in that market, hotshot?]
I love her to bits, but living amidst freepers, i can tell you right now, we might as well run al sharpton. she's the punchline to most of their lame jokes.
[Al Sharpton in ’08? Hmmm…. I LIKE that idea!]
I would rather see Boxer/Lewis.. John Lewis would electrify the campaign, and he deserves a bigger stage than congressman from Georgia.
[Give me a chance to take a few hits off the crack pipe. I’ll need it to even consider this a feasible ticket.]
Absolute worst choice, Christ, I'd vote for Sharpton before her.
[WHOA! Am I seeing a big groundswell for Sharpton here?]
I respect and even like her, but she's waaaay to far to the right. And then there's the bitter hatred so many have for her. Forget her. I say Obama!!!!
[Forget her. I say Fidel!!!!]
If she gets the nomination, I will invest absolutely nothing of myself in that election. She will get my vote and that's it. Look foreward to a Repuke landslide.
[HILLARY! HILLARY! HILLARY!]
I saw her on Letterman several months ago and he was asking her about the War on Terra and I couldn't detect the first whiff of dissent. On top of that, I absolutely hated the glib, passionless way she answered his questions.
[Glib and passionless. Sort of like her “Lying History” book.]
she is an extermely polarizing figure. She would probably NEVER win nationally. If you thought the smear campaign the republicans waged against John Kerry was bad, just wait until Hillary runs. I shudder to think what they have in store for Hillary.
[Her track record.]
She is a terrible speaker. When she projects her voice she gets shrill. She would be a disaster on the stump.
[Um…you know…I just think…you know…that your…you know…assertion just might be…you know….an exaggeration.]
She too easily falls into the stereotype of the "shrill, powerhungry feminist". Plus all of the Clinton baggage. Plus I don't think she has core beliefs. Our candidate must have core beliefs, integrity and political courage this time around; Hillary has none of those. People have a visceral dislike of Hillary the same way they do Martha Stewart. Of course there's some sexism involved, but it has much more to do with the perception that she's an elitist who looks down on the "little people".
[Martha Stewart! Now there is a woman to seriously consider for the ’08 ticket. Sort of like Hillary but not nearly as repulsive.]
You're not going to see a Northeastern Democrat run successfully in 2008, be it Hillary or Dean or Jesus H. Christ.
[I’ve always wondered…Does the “H” in Jesus H. Christ stand for Hillary?]
a Hillary candidacy would be a poison pill. If it looks bleak now, that might be the death knell for the left ever electing a president.
[Take two poison pills and go to sleep…..permanently. ]
If we like getting our ass kicked...then pick Hilary. But who in the hell else can we pick?
[Janet Reno?]
Common sense says that she's a losing bet...BUT I can't help but feel that she is being "ordained" for the Presidency by forces beyond our ordinary control.
[I believe they are called Satanic forces.]
Unless BBV is fixed, no Democratic nominee stands a chance.
[The settings on the Diebold machines are already fixed to go 2 to 1 against her in ’08.]
Maybe Chelsea some day, but not Hillary.
[First we need to wean Chelsea away from beer and then she needs to actually SAY something in public. Chelsea 2020?]
Now, I know this happens on both sides, but have you EVER voted for
someone whom you absolutely loathed simply because they were Republican?
Without even KNOWING who they are running against? If you did, would you
admit to it publicly?
I sure hope that person wasn't referring to our dear Governor Warner here in the Commonwealth.
Another fat lipped weasel running for President or Vice-President would be more than I could stand.
I say they should nominate L Douglas Wilder for President.
Our candidate must have core beliefs, integrity and political courage this time around; Hillary has none of those....
I would think this criteria would pretty much rule out any dem. Dems love to be lied to, for one thing. And for another, any dem that has core beliefs and integrity would be shouted down by the majority of dems because they lack these things and seeing them in others only makes them crazy-angry.
And then even those few dems who do have core beliefs and integrity would be missing the political courage because any dem with all three would not stay in the democrat party.
It sounds a little like they are asking for a Zell type but if they got a Zell Miller, imagine the cacophony!
Still, they are showing a trait I thought dems lacked, they are showing a limited introspection. I have never met a dem in person capable of personal introspection and I'm a little shocked to see them engaging in even on a party level.
If this develops into a habit and trickles down to a personal level they may become...sane. Some small percentage at least.
Bush will have to deliver to conservatives. It is unclear to me how much of this vote is really about conservative values - I think it is more about the WOT and the fact that Kerry was such a terrible candidate. The Christian vote could even turn into a negative next time around if the Rats can find a way to demonize it, co-opt it or split it. If the Rats would have had a good team it would have been a different story this time around. As it was he got 48%, a fact that I find mindblowing. It will be hard work to get the sort of long term political shift that we all hope for. I will believe it when I see it.
The truth is that we cannot manufacture this sea change - it has to be real or we have not accomplished much. The rats can, on the other hand, manufacture a win. Once they are in then they can start to dismantle us (and the democratic system in general.) We must not forget what evil b@stards these folks are. They mean to take down the country. Their task is in a way easier than ours. Let us hope that Bush's popularity grows and that he can throw that behind the next guy.
Having said all this, I must say that I am abolutly amazed at what he has accomplished as a politician (not to discount his other far more important accomplishments during his first term.) I never would have believed it. We call Clinton a genius of a politician but Bush is one of the best we have ever seen. In a sense he is better than Reagan. He seem to have a ling term vision for the party at heart. let us hope that he can pull out another win for us in 08.
I still feel that the GOP needs to firmly and honestly lay down their long term vision and take the gloves of with the Rats. They need to clearly state in public what the Democrats are really up to.
Evan Bayh doesn't pass the abortion litmus test, plus he's from one of those dreaded red states (mine)...but he did vote for the war and he voted for the tax cuts. I have never figured if my fellow Hoosiers keep him around because he's Birch's son, he's very likeable or he's bamboozled them into thinking he's more conservative than he really is. I didn't vote for him.
I think its because the unions squander their member's dues on these kinds of things, buying massive loads of books, and they are either rotting in a warehouse somewhere, or maybe the AFL-CIO (I almost put ACLU here by mistake, but come to think of it, they may buy boatloads of books too and store or burn them, I doubt they give them away at membership drives, who joins the ACLU?) is shredding them now along with all evidence of how they spent their member's dues in the recent election.
"Hummm, if they hated Kerry that much, what do you think 'they' will do to Hillary."
Even a Test Rat will avoid the shock if you shock him long enough! hehe
They may just find a way to dump the abortion issue, or at least appear to do so. The abortion crowd is just another lobby. If they are a permenant bar to power they will find a way to dump them or buy them off - we are talking about the partry of the Slave ownders here, for Pete's sake. They are capable of any posture. We have said that this was the crucial election for the us but actually 08 is shaping up to be the important one. I hope that 06 goes well. If we can pick lots of seat in both houses it will be a very good sign. I am sure that Rive is well aware of all of this and working on it (when he is not practicing "being elusive.")
Evan Bayh doesn't pass the abortion litmus test, plus he's from one of those dreaded red states (mine)...but he did vote for the war and he voted for the tax cuts.
I just know Bayh was against partial birth. I haven't looked into his stand on abortion in general. As far as voting for the war and tax cuts and being from a red state....Indiana is a heavily Repub state and Bush won it by 500,000. But your state went for Bayh by 500,000. This is the kind of thing Carville and Rove are paid to exploit.
Just to show what can happen in this upside down world...I'm from IL and in IL 700,000 that voted for Obama also voted for Bush. Only in an upside down world can ANYONE vote for Bush AND Obama.
Did you know that in the olden days, Indiana was important enough that almost every presidential ticket between the Civil War and WWI had a Hoosier on it? Now, even the Republicans ignore us!
Hmmm, one of the DUmmmies is buying a clue.
"...only one copy of "Midnight in The Garden of Good and Evil"
I really enjoyed that book, it truly was exactly what I expected. Contrasted to the Alienist, which was rather a big let down.
HA HA!
What's really sad is if 19% of the electorate hadn't voted for the Little General back in '92, the Clinton Administration--among MANY other things--would have never happened??
*sigh*
Welcome #259 to the PING List.
ping!
Um, now you know why I want the DUmmie FUnnies to be published in a book form so the general public can see the Left for what they REALLY are. Such a book would be UNLIKE the typical political book which is only read by that small fraction of the public into politics and current events. A DUmmie FUnnies book would appeal to a much broader audience (especially college students) because, supplemented by LOTS of related comix stories and illustrations, it would be FUNNY, entertaining, AND informative.
ROTFLMAO!!
Will that work?
Please add me to you DU Funnies list.
No but #261 will do.
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