Crying Girl or Crying Wolf [Phil Parlock as "Protest Warrior" - sign-ripping union thug NOT his son]

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[RonDog]

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September 17, 2004

Crying Girl or Crying Wolf?

Rather than continue putting updates in the earlier post, I'm going to start a new one to deal with the questions surrounding the picture below. I will leave a pointer there with a note that there is more up-to-date information here.

These are the newpaper accounts of the event I've located so far:
Democrats accused of ripping Bush signs, The Washington Times, September 17, 2004.
Edwards greets supporters at airport, The Herald-Dispatch, September 17, 2004.

Rising Hegemon's The Bogus Assault -- Father Freeper of the Year (should buckhead not be able to serve) suggests that this picture is not what it's presented as being. No, it's not apparently a forgery, the picture is a real AP picture, but it may be political "theatre." In other words, what the picture portrays may be a posed scene that misrepresents actual events. If this is shown to be the case, this man is really no different from Dan Rather. Both deserve the excoriation of honest people everywhere.

When I searched the online Charlestion (WV) Daily Mail archives for articles on Phil Parlock I initially came up empty. My fault. I was searching the current online edition, not the archives as I thought. The area for that was off the bottom of my screen when I clicked on the "Search Archives" button. Once I noticed that, I did get the two summaries to the articles cited in the blog entry mentioned above:

SIGNS FOR BUSH TAKEN AT RALLY, FATHER, SON SAY

Page: P1A Headline: SIGNS FOR BUSH TAKEN AT RALLY, FATHER, SON SAY Byline: SAM TRANUM DAILY MAIL STAFF Phil Parlock didn't expect to need all 12 of the Bush-Cheney signs he and his son Louis smuggled in their socks and pockets into...
Published: October 28, 2000
Words: 952

DOLE SUPPORTERS FIND IT ROUGH AT CLINTON RALLY

"We always try to give them a warm Republican welcome,' said Painter, a recent graduate of Marshall University. Phil Parlock's experience was less calm. The Huntington man said he was knocked to the ground by a Clinton supporter when...
Published: August 27, 1996
Words: 347
Google also turns up mention of Phil Parlock, though not in the reported context:
Five vie for two Cabell BOE seats
BOE candidates weigh in
Lynch may affect perception of women in combat

Rising Hegemon makes in interesting observation about the photo also. The young man in the backwards baseball hat, who many have taken to be a union goon who ripped up the Bush-Cheney sign, looks a lot like Phil Parlock. Check out the family picture posted there and compare. Rising Hegemon says, "This guy is a serial disrupter with pretty much the same story every time." I am unwilling to accept that conclusion based on the evidence presented, though it is a possibility.

First: Since when is holding up an opposition sign, especially if it's away from the main group of the opponents as it's described here, "a disruption?" That's very clearly within the bounds of acceptable political behavior.

Second: While there is a pattern here, it is not clear what is the significance of this pattern. What we know (from the news report archives) is that similar events have happened twice before. The explanation that Rising Hegemon offers is plausible. It is not the only plausible explanation.

If Phil Parlock regularly attends this sort of political event, especially as a "counter-demonstrator," the odds of some sort of incident involving him rises. As long as it's just turning up and standing off to one side holding up an opponent's sign, it can't really be called "disruption," but it could become annoying to the hardcore Democrats who may have come to recognise him. If this is the case, and I don't really have enough information to judge, it's not that unlikely that he might have signs torn away and ripped up or trampled. If you doubt this, you aren't reading the news.

I submit that while I don't have evidence to stake my hat on this latter interpretation, Rising Hegemon is on equally shaky grounds. If he has more evidence, he hasn't offered it.

What we know is Phil Parlock shows up at Democratic events and counter-demonstrates. To all accounts I've seen, he does this peacefully, though sometimes perhaps intrustively. There is mention of smuggling in the signs. He didn't this last time insert himself and his family into the Democrats' crowd as the VVAW and Kerry supporters tried to do at the Vietnam Veterans for Truth rally did this weekend, for one example. But it isn't clear that he didn't do that in the 2000 incident where the smuggling of signs is mentioned. He has done this at least three times in eight years. I'd guess that he has been at more events, but that is a guess. If these are the only events he has attended, this would, in my opinion, support Rising Hegemon's conclusion. If he has been at, say, ten times this number over eight years, I'd say Rising Hegemon's conclusion is on very shaky ground.

The other articles that I found suggest a possible motive that would support Rising Hegemon's conclusion. Phil Parlock may be seeking publicity to help in his attempts at entering local politics (he seems to need all the help he can get, from the election returns for the BOE position he sought). Of course, his motive could simply be that he wishes to see Republican candidates elected, and he's just running his own family campaign to promote those candidates. Another motive is his expressed desire to educate his children on the excesses to be expected from the Democrats' supporters.

So, I don't see that Rising Hegemon's conclusion is sufficiently supported by the facts he has supplied to date. I do agree, however, that this incident is not clearly what the caption of the picture describes it to be.

If Phil Parlock is attending events and counter-demonstrating and having his signs taken away and ripped up, that is still bad behavior on the part of those supporting the opponent candidate. The proper response is the one I saw this weekend. Those who noted the Kerry-Edwards supporters insinuating themselves in the crowd simply pointed them out to the local police presence. Those potential disruptors (and one was disruptive, chanting during a speech) were approached by the police, warned as to the limits of acceptable behavior, and, if appropriate, escorted to an area outside the main crowd. From the description in the Washington Times article, Phil did not try to insinuate himself in the crowd.

If Phil Parlock is attending these events and faking these attacks, that's terribly dishonest and possibly illegal. And if he can be prosecuted under some pertinent law, he should be.

We need more evidence. I hear Phil was on the Glenn Beck show this morning. Maybe a transcript from that will provide more information. I can't listen to the audios at the moment, but they are here:
Listen to Glenn Beck interveiw Phil Parlock on his show:
Glenn Beck Interveiws Phil Parlock - Free Audio
Glenn Beck Follow-Up Interview with Phil Parlock - Free Audio

Here are a few posts on this:
3 year old Sophia Parlock crying at protest, was it FAKED? at Passionate America.
Coinkydinks at Eschaton.
Kerry/Edwards Supporters Assault 3-Year-Old Girl (UPDATE: Scam??) at Captains' Quarters.

I posted a tongue-in-cheek comment elsewhere about the timing on the DU post, but it was 4:22am, well after this broke. Kudos to Rezmutt for noticing something odd about the story, whether or not he nailed the right conclusion.

Update: After reading one of the old articles closely, I can see Phil does go to events with the expectation of having his signs taken away. From experiences documents (on video!) elsewhere, that's a resonable expectation. I'm not sure that I think he's entirely wise for taking his 3-year-old daughter to this event, when he had reason from experience to believe he might face violence (if relatively minor), but what's the real problem here is that that sort of violence is to be expected.

The tone of the article is questioning whether he's reporting facts, or embellishing, but he sounds pretty reasonable, and a sense of humor even seems to come through the slightly sceptical reporting.

One question that needs to be asked, based upon this statement: Does Phil Parlock know Sandy Berger?

He and Louis brought a supply of Bush-Cheney signs and smuggled them into the rally. They stuffed plastic ones in their socks and pockets and folded paper ones inside Gore-Lieberman signs.

As of this moment I partially accept Rising Hegemon's conclusion. Phil Parlock is deliberately placing himself in a position where he knows he may be attacked for holding up opposition signs. I think it's unwise to bring very young children along, but I also think it's a crying shame that a father needs to worry about the safety of a young child at a political gathering. But I don't believe the assertions that the signs are being destroyed by Phil and his family themselves. There is no evidence of that, and recent history shows that signs opposing Democratic candidates have been destroyed rather often. Should any such evidence be put forward, I stand by my earlier assertion that he then should be prosecuted if possible. Let a jury decide.

I categorically reject any suggestion that attacks upon him are justified. The proper course of action is to ask that the police place him away from the crowd if he attempts to insinuate himself with it. In the case of an event with rules about signs, as the one described in the 2000 incident was, they should ask the police to eject him, not take matters into their own hands (and his signs into theirs in order to destroy them). Anyone who is not a proper authority who takes signs from a peaceful protester and destroys them is at best a vigilante, at worst a thug and a thief.

Update: The union involved has issued an apology (hat tip: Captain's Quarters), which makes clear that the union itself, International Union of Painters and Allied Trades, believes that a member did participate in the incident in a less than proper manner:

The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades believes in the fundamental right for civil discourse, freedom of speech and activism to support our candidates and issues.

What happened in Huntington, West Virginia yesterday is an affront to everything we, as a union, pride ourselves to represent. We extend our apologies to the Parlock family, especially Sophia, for the distress one of our overzealous members caused them.

I have personally taken steps to address this issue internally, and will take immediate disciplinary action to the fullest extent allowed under U.S. Department of Labor regulations and the constitution of the International Union of Painters and Allied Trades.

It is my hope that this incident reminds all of our members that every last citizen in this country has the right to express his or herself freely. Not one single one of us has the right to tell them otherwise.

General President James A. Williams
The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades

And Michelle Malkin adds more: THE LEFT IS DESPERATE FOR A HOAX

A commentor adds:

This afternoon, I called the Union headquarters. According to the general president's staff, the union is still investigating the incident and has NOT identified the man in the picture. I was informed that the apology was issued in the possible event of the jackass in the photo being a union member. Claims that the union believes him to be a member are incorrect. They are investigating. That is all for now.

That's fair enough. But that the union is doing so speaks to my point that we do have a problem: the sort of behavior the union is looking into is not unexpected. Were it, the union would say "we are looking into the possibilility that a member might be involved, but we don't really believe that's the case." I will add, I do appreciate their quick response. They could be pulling a Rather and denying everything.

I've listened the the Glenn Beck interviews now. Phil says he's done this other times without violence of any sort resulting. That adds to my earlier statement that this result may not be the norm, as Rising Hegemon assumes. But I do think his is a family of unofficial "protest warriors." That's fine. They should not be assaulted. But if they are sneaking in where the rules say they should not be with signs, they should also be removed by proper authorities.

I see that Michelle Malkin has updated her entry too, and pointed my way (thanks, Michelle).

And let me state for the record: If the union or I or anyone else finds out that this was staged, I will be the loudest to condemn Parlock and will send an apology and a dozen roses to Attaturk at Rising Hegemon.

I agree with her sentiment here (as I've stated above a couple times), but I won't send Attaturk roses.

Update: (hat tip: Blogs for Bush) USNews.com has this by Paul Bedard:

If the picture of little 3-year-old Sophia Parlock crying after some Kerry-Edwards supporters tore up her Bush-Cheney poster got to you, well, you weren't the only one. President Bush and even first pup Barney were dismayed too, we hear. It happened at a West Virginia rally last week for Democratic running mate Sen. John Edwards, to which Phil Parlock brought his daughter. After seeing the picture of the tearful Sophia on her dad's shoulders, aides said the president was sending her a little note Friday along with a signed campaign poster and an autographed photo of the prez and his dog. "Dear Sophia," Bush penned, "Thank you for supporting my campaign. I understand someone tore up your sign. So I am sending you a new sign and a signed picture. Please give my best to your family. Sincerely, George W. Bush." And on the picture, he inked: "To Sophia, Best wishes from me and Barney." Phil Parlock tells us it really wasn't necessary. "He already said 'Thank you' when he hugged her" at a previous Bush rally they attended, he says. "She bragged for days."

Also, I've read comments on the picture posted below questioning whether it's authentic (not my version, but the original as posted elsewhere). Look at the pictures in the articles at the top of this post and you'll see a slightly different shot, with the same elements present. Also, remember that tweaking the size of jpgs results in artifacts. If you do it more than once, as is apt to be the case where blogs are borrowing from each other, these artifacts proliferate.

Update: Media Matters, the left's media watchdog, has a post up on this that adds a little new information. The photographer, listed as an AP photographer on the article photos, is not an AP photographer according to Media Matters:

Snyder is not an Associated Press photographer; he is listed as "chief photographer" on the masthead of The Herald-Dispatch, which bills itself as "the online news authority for Huntington, West Virginia, Southern Ohio and Eastern Kentucky.

I'm no expert on how AP works, but I suspect this is shaving a point pretty finely. Most syndicates, like AP, work with stringers whose work is listed under the "brand" of the syndicate. The spin in the post is clearly aimed at insinuating some sort of conspiracy, but there is nothing more than circumstantial evidence offered. And that is also consistent with my conclusion, that the Parlock family are informal "protest warriors" who make a point of showing the intolerance of Democratic supporters. How useful this is is an open question. It is certainly not illegal on its face. Unlike the response they provoke.

Posted by dan at September 17, 2004 12:09 PM | TrackBack

[Victoria Delsoul]

Thanks Ron. I'll read it a bit later. I need to do a few things around my place first.

[RonDog]

And, from ANOTHER wonderful summary of this event, at the Blog www.one-holy-catholic-apostolic.org:

...So, apart from any 'DU' complaint that he's, essentially, a Republican and has been raising his children to be such - boo and bad, and hiss . . and etc - they and others, once again, also suggest he's a bad father for putting his childen in harm's way. They say, even if the family, in part, has attended various rallies, or he himself for almost 20 years, and even if these two and maybe only a few others were marked by violence, still it's not reasonable to expose a three-year-old to potential violence if that had been the long past experience.
 
They further suggest the conspiracy in the similarity of events described. But the answer there is, that's pretty much what might happen each and every time. Just how it works. Signs. Democrat doesn't like signs. Democrats being Democrats - attack the signs and people carrying the signs. For people who say that doesn't happen, there's three incidents already on record, thanks to 'DU'.
 
And the answer to the former is, I suppose it's going to depend. My opinion is that he did not anticipate violence at the airport. And I suspect if he had, at least the other son would have been close by. And the child was likely his shoulders simply so she could see, not to be a focal point of attention. Others are going to say, he just shouldn't have brought her. And this whole story is, ultimately, simply about Sophia. That's why the picture so revolted people. In this case, the police should have intervened. And apparently police were present. And the eldest sister is also right. People should be able to attend opposition rallies without being assaulted. And those wonderful folks who make it so dangerous are literally shown in that very photo. I would hope critics of Mr. Parlock, who would prefer to make this an issue about Mr. Parlock's parenting skills, rather than the vicious assaults of self-righteous union members, would also keep it in mind.
 
I would also offer a correction to that at the top. It seems, instead, that the photo of the thug, and the screaming black woman in the background, follows the other photo. They were in the thick of it, and were assaulted - apparently. Then they made their way to the exit, and this guy followed and others jeered. Clearly he had been one of the attackers, seen in the previous photo.
 
Glen Beck interviewed Phil Parlock in the first hour of his show. Download that here. He had asked in the first half hour for 'the guy' in the photo to call. And he did. But then he got word of these 'DU' conspiracy complaints; via this intermediate website he didn't trust, and yet seemed to trust implicitly. And by hour three, he wanted Phil back on the phone. Ultimately, Beck holds Parlock responsible, as well, adopting the protesters and 'DU' complaint that Parlock is a bad father. And I think Beck is entitled to his opinion. And I can understand it, as noted above. I really can. I don't share his opinion. I think he's wrong. He wants to second guess Parlock. And he felt betrayed. And I don't, and won't do that. I think the union thugs seemed friendly, at first; that they acted just like people. And that is, in fact, the story the family wanted to get out - the crowd turned mean. Read below.
 
To be honest, and again read below, Parlock seems much like the all-American, 'salt of the earth', types that might still be typical of this country, and which is my belief. Church on Sunday. In this case, Roman Catholic. Big family. But not necessarily a traditionalist. And yet the large Catholic traditionalist families are just like this, as well - willing to speak out, bold, sometimes shy, military service, hard working, just the backbone of America. And Parlock and family seem cut from that mold. Sounds like a man you would be proud to call, friend, and fellow Catholic.
 

Source: The Glen Beck Show [nationally syndicated]
Date: 17 SEP 2004, hr 1
AUDIO
 
Beck: Sophia Parlock. She is three years old. She's sitting on his Dad's shoulders and she's got tears streaming down her cheeks because somebody has literally ripped the . . uh . . Bush/Cheney sign . . uh . . out of her hands. . . . Hi, Phil.
 
Parlock: Good morning. This is truly an honor, Glen. And I . . I am glad that I'm . . we're on the same right side. I would always want to avoid your wrath.
 
Beck: [laughing] I don't know what wrath you're even talking about, Phil. Thank you, so much. I'm glad to hear that you listen to the program.
 
Parlock: Indeed. [?]
 
Beck: Um . . tell me . . tell me the situation. You were in Huntington, at the airport, right?
 
Parlock: We were [unintelligible] at the airport. And we went up to the-to the Edwards . . uh . . well, we thought it was going to be a rally. He ended up not speaking, but . . We were there. And we were there, clearly, to support the President. We like to always let the other side know that the Bush supporters are always there, always in the background, always vigilant.
 
[intervening]
 
As the Senator was going towards his plane . . um . . I had taken some signs in. And we . . I gave a sign to my son, Alex, who is in the picture . . [who looks] ready to take on that union thug.
 
Beck: So that is that guy, in the green hat? That is the thug?
 
Parlock: Yes, that is the g-guy. Well, we . . they . . we had-we had several signs taken from . . the painter's union guys . . and . . The painter's union guys took a couple of sign off of us. [in sing-song voice] Um . . Some women and old ladies did it, too. I mean. [end sing-song]. But you can see, really, in that picture he has a piece of the sign in his hand and he's dropping it onto the ground. And I can confirm that.
 
No, we were absolutely, positively polite. Merely tried to hold up a sign. We were circled by . . by twenty people with huge signs. I don't know why we're such a threat.
 
Beck: . . . You had your daughter holding the sign . . ?
 
Parlock: We were jointly holding the sign because we had . . I had taken in several signs. And they were all ripped out of our hands. So I gave it to Sophia to put up. And I held-I held up there with her. And I mean, they just ripped and tore, and almost knocked her off my shoulder. They were very eager to get the signs.
 
Beck: . . . How's she doing today?
 
Parlock: She . . she . . she's better today. . . . She started to get scared and started crying. The picture was taken on our way out. And they were still trying to get the remnants of the sign off of her.
 
Beck: As she was crying?
 
Parlock: Yes. Yes. You can see the jeering in the background.
 
. . .
 
Something that is interesting. My daughter said, as we had gotten out and were walking away, she said - those people changed, they got mean. Honestly, Glen, beforehand they said, What a nice little girl you are. What a nice family you have. And then all of a sudden, I should be ashamed and embarrassed for bringing my children to such a thing and doing such a horrible act as raising a . .
 
Beck: Such a horrible thing? [laughing]
 
Parlock: They said I was an unfit father.
 
Beck: Are ya . . you have many ki . . you have two kids?
 
Parlock: I have, well, no, I have ten.
 
Beck: Shut up! [chuckling]
 
Parlock: Yes, I have three. I have three in college. The two oldest ones are in the National Guard. My third son . . my third child . . my second son, is signing up for the National Guard either tomorrow or the next week.
 
Beck: . . . Catholic or Mormon?
 
Parlock: Uh . . uh . . Catholic. We're not Orthodox. My wife was raised Roman Catholic. But that's none of anybody else's business what we do. We chose to have that many children. We said, whatever God gives us. And He has.
 
Beck: God bless you. That's great. . . .
 
Parlock: . . . Sophia bragged all day, Friday, because she said - I hugged President Bush, and he said, Thank You. Now what a contrast! We waited four hours in line to see the President when he was here, in Huntington. And she had a chance to hug him. And President Bush paused and said, thank you, to her.
 
Beck: . . . You can't tell me that you believe John Edwards or John Kerry would do anything but hug your daughter. . . .
 
Parlock: They would be nice. But I'm saying President Bush paused and said, thank you, to a three year old girl for giving him a hug. That's the difference.

 
I listen to Beck, on occasion. I will continue to do so. But contrary to what he said, suddenly Beck seemed to feel as if he'd been betrayed. He took it all personally. His reputation was on the line. He lost sight of the story, and the events as has been described to him. If only he could have remembered his words from hour 1, and stayed with that. He had it right, the first time.
 
As for his opinion of blogs, perhaps he hasn't been following the Ra^thergate story. Virtually all the hard news on that came from weblogs and sites like The Free Republic. It's not that easy to say it's only conservative blogs. The test in judging these isn't that they are always right, or always liberal, or always conservative, but rather that they are often right, and responsible. Those involved in Ra^thergate fit that bill. And yet his feeling of betrayal is literally based on an untested liberal weblog which he claimed can't have any merit or value. And in this case, maybe so. And yet, he seems to say one thing and think another, as mentioned above.
 
Myself, I'd BE PROUD to call Phil Parlock, and his whole family, friends.
 

[RonDog]

Please, STOP! Just stop. Don't even go there.

This is the same load of crap they attempted to use against Don and myself.

I am on YOUR side, I think. :o)

Personally, I would have counselled Mr. Parlock to set up a counter-FReep area AWAY from the main KerryRAT rally - where is children would have been SAFER...

...and I would have preferred that he co-ordinated his plans in advance with the local autorities, rather than sneaking Bush/Cheney posters in a la Sandy Berger - in his pants and socks.

And, he REALLY should have brought along his own cameraman/videographer to document EVERYTHING that happened...

...but there is still NO EXCUSE for ANYONE to intentionally harm a small child, as these union thugs most certainly did.

[bvw]

For every Curchhill in the world there are ten-thousand Chamberlins. At least there used to be. Still a whole lot -- witness current FR threads.

[RonDog]

Michelle Malin

Ooops!

Obviously, that SHOULD HAVE BEEN Michelle Malkin.

See also, www.michellemalkin.com:

[RonDog]

And http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000535.htm

[RonDog]

From powerlineblog.com:

...UPDATE: A number of lefty sites have gone ballistic over this post. Some point to news reports indicating that Mr. Parlock has been assaulted by Democrats, to one degree or another, in two prior elections. This, they suggest, means that he must be some kind of a fraud. To me, it sounds like an indictment of West Virginia Democrats, not Parlock.

The other tack that some lefties have taken is to say that no one should take a young child to a political event.

In other words, we Democrats are so vicious, so violent and so unpredictable that you should not bring young children to a public place if there is a danger that Democrats may be around.

An odd defense, in my opinion.

[Bonaparte]

Reminds me of good old Governor Barnes of Mississippi...

Now if these "freedom riders" come down here agitating folks, interfering with our way of life, stirring up our colored, why, I don't believe I can guarantee their safety. No, sir, I don't believe I can.

[TAdams8591]

I know it is of no matter to most and as Don is so frequently reminding me though he bore the brunt of it, don't forget, they assaulted me, by hitting me too.

[TAdams8591]

Agreed. It was an appalling, outrageous disgrace.

Forgive me. I don't even want to entertain any of their attempts to blame the people they victimized, and I do understand that's not what you were doing. My intention was to make that clear.

[MeekOneGOP]

So many threads/pings, so little time .....

[beaelysium]

The signs of the protesters are their property. No one has a right to grab them and rip them up. It is theft and debasing property.

If the police don't arrest these people for the above, then protesters should start filing private criminal complaints to have them prosecuted and then sue them civilly for violating their rights to peacable assembly and freedom of speech. Period.

I agree completely!

[TAdams8591]

Hopefully, FR and other conservative organizations are helping to change that.

In many ways it is remarkably astounding how many people associated with this and other conservative forums and in the military, resemble Churchhill.

[bvw]

Once the bullies get a taste of bullying they become ever emboldened. Until ... You stood them down. I know sometimes it doesn't seem that way -- but you and Don bested those thugs. Persevence wins out in the end.

[sevry]

he REALLY should have brought along his own cameraman/videographer

There's one thing I do question. And it goes to what you suggest. Why doesn't he press charges?

Now the suggestion is that from now on he'd be 'outed', surrounded by police when attempting to 'freep' a rally. But I think - in my opinion - that's going to happen anyway, at this point. I think he should press charges. He's a public figure now. He's not going to sneak in 'amongst' them. The anonymity is gone. And at this point, he needs to help the police do their job, assuming they are willing to step up and do their job as he was willing to step up and do his.

Again, don't misunderstand. I won't second guess him, on this. But I don't really understand his refusal to prosecute, that's all.

[lowbridge]

Here's a new DU thread on the subject:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2364842

[TAdams8591]

And as RB suggests, press charges for assault.

[TAdams8591]

Thank you for the kind remarks. They are always appreciated.

[tame]

Thanks, Rondog!

[RaceBannon]

But, that did need to be added, I forgot myself about you,too!