Why I Am Now Behind Arnold

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[Canticle_of_Deborah]

You are foolish and uniformed.

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For Immediate Release Contact: Ruth Gardner 661-859-2600

June 12, 2003

905 Fraudulent Votes Found in 30th Assembly District by Dean Gardner Volunteers. Investigation Centered on Kern County Portion of 30th Assembly Dist.

Today, Dean Gardner, made the following statement at a news conference in Bakersfield, Ca.

“For the last 30 years, I have heard about voter fraud in California, but it did not affect me directly and like you, I didn’t pay much attention. I didn’t realize how much voter fraud impacts all of us until recently.

In the seven months since the election, we have looked in detail at 2,460 of the 14,000 recently registered Democrat voters in Kern County that are registered to vote in the 30th Assembly District. I was shocked and dismayed by what we found.

I cannot give you any names or addresses because of the ongoing investigations.

In order to cast a legal vote in California, the voter must be at least 18 years old, must be alive, must be a Citizen of the United States, must not be a felon on parole, must be registered to vote and live in that district and that voter can vote only one time in that election.

Of the 2,460 voters that were examined 905 of these people in this sample cast fraudulent ballots.

For example, we found:

69 people actually admitted voting at least twice. These are just the ones who admitted it.

93 people admitted that they voted but are not citizens of the United States. They were told that if they registered and voted, it would help them get their citizenship.

272 people actually admitted that they do not live in the 30th Assembly District but that they voted in the 30th Assembly District

We found people that changed the spelling of their name slightly so that they could register and vote a second time. Someone named William also registered as Bill. We found people with the same name registered at the same address whose birthdays were exactly one year or one day apart. By changing their birth date, one person became two people with two votes.

The biggest problem that we found was the number of people who showed up at the polls and voted using someone else’s name. We have testimony from people who report that they went to vote and found that their name had already been used. People impersonated the legitimate voter. How did they do that? A lot of people are registered but don’t vote. Hanging on the wall in every polling place in the State of California is a list of the people that are eligible to vote at that polling place. By state law, every two hours, an election worker up dates the list with the names of the people who have voted. The cheaters send in someone with a cell phone to call back to the headquarters with the names of the people who have not voted. People claiming to be those people miraculously show up and vote.

We found 905 fraudulent ballots out of 2,460 voters. You do the math. Divide 905 by 2,460 you will get 37%. We estimate that 37% of the newly registered Democrat voters who voted in the Kern County portion of the 30th Assembly District cast fraudulent votes.

What we found in Kern County was seen all over California. Some places worse than others. There is a well oiled and well funded fraud machine run by liberal special interest groups that may be electing people to the legislature who should not be there and they are destroying our freedoms in California.

Let me give you some examples of the fraud. We have people who registered in October at a house that burned down two years ago. We have people registered to addresses that don’t exist. We have people who voted last November at the polls who actually moved to the Philippines two years ago.

I personally spoke to one man who admitted voting four times. I asked him why and he said that he cared more than most. I went with a volunteer to one house at random where seven votes originated and asked the woman how many people lived there. She said three. When asked about the other four voters, she said that her two daughters and their husbands always use her address to vote. They do not live in the 30th Assembly District. They just vote here.

The information that we have discovered was turned over to the Kern County District Attorney’s Office and to the Secretary of State’s fraud unit six months ago.

We have just handed the same information to the US Attorney’s Office.

Voter fraud is an attack on our basic freedoms and I cannot and will not sit back and watch it continue.

Last November, California voters turned down ‘same day voter registration’. Well, the liberal special interest groups in Sacramento did not get the message, because the Assembly just passed a bill allowing for same day registration in Alameda County. They call it a pilot program. We can not rely on the special interest liberals in Sacramento to stop the voter fraud. As you know, under current law identification is not required either to register or to vote, in fact, if you, as a poll worker or election official, ask a person to prove their identity, you have broken the law.

Therefore, I am announcing that immediately after the Gray Davis Recall is completed, I will sponsor a statewide initiative that will help clean up the voter fraud problem. It will require proof of eligibility and proof of identity when a person registers to vote and proof of identity when a person does vote.

If you buy something and write a check or use a credit card, you must have identification. If you want to get on an airplane in you must show photo id. It seems logical to me to require people to produce identification when they vote. It seems ridiculous to me that we allow people to walk into the polls, point at a name and say, “That’s me” and vote without any verification as to their identity.

One man told me “If we didn’t cheat, we couldn’t win”.

We have a group of people with no integrity attacking our basic freedoms. As you know, I served in the military and I swore to protect the Constitution of the United States. This is one way I can help do that. It is time to put California back in the hands of the people.”

[Maelstrom]

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Which faction within the GOP got this recall on the ballot, and which faction misjudged the public mood, and opposed this effort?

" This is far from done playing out.
We won't know for sure the impact of the recall until the 2004 election. "

Again you are wrong.
RINOs opposed the recall. The recall IS played out, the issue is ON the ballot. This is the first successful recall in California's history. There has been a recall effort for every California governor going back for a number of years.

By rights, this would indicate that it *IS* time for RINOs to support conservatives. We scratched your back, it's time to scratch ours.

That simply isn't going to happen is it...

...and it isn't going to happen because RINOs are *Liberals* first and Republican second. This is why you're getting educated...and...because you're probably a Liberal first yourself, it's also why you reject the free education.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

reactionaries

Ahh, yet another term of endearment used by a Dem or a RINO who hates the party base. Marty, your words betray you. Or is this another "joke"?

[Maelstrom]

Why don't we look at Arnold's own history?

Or...
...maybe Arnold's own articulated political philosophy, from a time when he wasn't under pressure as a candidate, simply not acceptable?

The man's NOT a conservative.

[Maelstrom]

Yes there is a reason.

If he were a Dem, he'd be competing primarily with Bustamonte for the sole Dem they want to put on the ballot.

This is less effective than running a Liberal on both Republican AND Democrat ballots.

[george wythe]

Post something from a reputable news source, not a biased press release.

Furthermore, your post does not support your contention that California voters are 50/50 Dem/Rep.

Even if 90% of the Democratic voters were fraudulent, their votes still count in the current political arena.

[Maelstrom]

It's also the description given to the Liberal activists who put Lenin and Stalin in power.

[Maelstrom]

"Post something from a reputable news source, not a biased press release. "

This is an ad hominem attack, not a logical argument.

"Furthermore, your post does not support your contention that California voters are 50/50 Dem/Rep."

I didn't see her make such a contention.

"Even if 90% of the Democratic voters were fraudulent, their votes still count in the current political arena."

Given the 45/35/10 split given, Republicans are MORE numerous than democrats. it becomes 5/35/10 and 40 FRAUDULENT. Think on that for a moment...and understand I rounded in favor of the Democrats with your own numbers.

[kkindt]

I'll buy one if you print them up.

Perhaps it should be more like:
Gays. Organs in Offal Ports. OOPS.

[Maelstrom]

Well...*I* tried to be polite about it.

^_^

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

This is wrong on so many counts that I'm not going to bother with it. In the Emerson case, the Appellate Court (I believe that it was the 5th Circuit) found that the Second Amendment was an individual right. You are mixing up the Emerson case with the recent Ninth Circuit ruling.

Hate to tell you, but the case continued on to one more trial that you must not have been aware of.

A District court found that the 2nd Amendment is an individual right. It is most noteworthy that this was the first time a court had ever mading such a ruling.
The 5th Circuit upheld the ruling, but reversed the dismissal of the case and remanded it back to the District Court, which held a second trial and found him guilty.

Being that the 2nd Amendment defense ultimately did not protect Emerson upon retrial, the unprecidented original ruling was effectively nullified. Furthermore, the Supreme Court rejected hearing the case, so any percieved advancement by this singular exception to established case law is in no way solidified.

So how is Ahnold saving us from anything? If McClintock would have won by a plurality without him, as you asserted, how is he saving us from anything by splitting the vote?

How many times must I explain this?
Arnold is saving the conservatives from themselves because a small McClintock victory by simple plurality now will translate into a huge GOP defeat in 2004. It is called "backlash".

Best to tell your handlers that you are out of your depth here.

I don't have any, but I would like to know where I can get some.

Some Republican Bible thumpers are defining the cutting edge of environmental policy, like me.

I won't argue with that, but the negative stereotypes put forth by the media still stand firm in California.

I never said the left-wing propaganda was true, only that it is effective.

[george wythe]

We are discussing the current universe of registered voters in California, not the actual number of Republicans and Democrats in the state.

It is a fact that in 2002:

Democrats 45%
Republicans 35%
independents 15%
other 5%

From that universe, we have election results.

If Republican voters were a majority in California, why did California chose Gore over Bush, Clinton over Dole, and Clinton over Bush?

[kkindt]

Putting an organ into any orifice not designed for it is of course sodomy. My point is that those who are homosexual have no natural place to put their organ and that is why anyone who would thinks such perverse "orientation" is gay is upside down in their life and in their thinking.

It is obvious what our organs were designed for and where they should go and where they should not go. Can't we agree to support laws that punish people for putting their organs in inappropriate and unhealthy places because it is a health risk to the community and they don't have a right to jeopardize all of us through their filthy practices?

[Maelstrom]

Ah yes...but see, I found the handbook and drew the only logical conclusion available:

Republicans are aliens from another planet.

Starve the children...
Kick the homeless out into the street...
Poison the water, the air, the land...
Ruin the economy...

These are Republican goals...according to the Leftist propaganda.

Brain dead people believe it...but they don't often vote. The simple articulation of the only logical conclusion given the propaganda has enabled me to persuade more Democrats that it's time to become Republican than I care to count.

So...if you don't buy it...don't expect someone else to buy it simply because you're bigger/stronger/smarter or whatever makes you elite.

[Sabertooth]

This is far from done playing out.
We won't know for sure the impact of the recall until the 2004 election.

Keep posting, sunshine. The more proof from your keyboard that you aren't a Californian, the more entertaining this thread gets.

Anyone from California with even a rudimentary understanding of the political landscape here, understands that the impact of this recall will be felt for decades. This is an earthquake, like Proposition #13 or Proposition #187. Only you out-of-staters view 2004 as in any way the terminal point of the endgame.

[Carry_Okie]

Hate to tell you, but the case continued on to one more trial that you must not have been aware of.

Furthermore, the Supreme Court rejected hearing the case, so any percieved advancement by this singular exception to established case law is in no way solidified.

No, the DOJ decided to drop the case.

Arnold is saving the conservatives from themselves because a small McClintock victory by simple plurality now will translate into a huge GOP defeat in 2004. It is called "backlash".

BS. Getting the Slave Party out of power is essential to generating ANY Republican contributions. Without leverage you can't generate campaign funds, PERIOD. Further, if Ahnold gave a hoot about Bush he wouldn't have tapped Buffet as a campaign advisor. There is little correlation with which party holds the governorship and how a particular state votes in presidential elections. Finally, if supporting the President is the only reason to vote for Ahnold, you don't give a hang about California which has to live with the results.

I never said the left-wing propaganda was true, only that it is effective.

If left wing propaganda was so effective, we wouldn't be having this discussion because there wouldn't be a recall.

[Carry_Okie]

This person thinks that looking at 2004 is long term thinking. Little does he understand.

[Maelstrom]

It's also a fact that the 45% is over-represented. A significant portion of those are fraudulent.

...which answers your question quite adroitly with a single word...

Fraud.

If just 20% of the registered voters in the Democrat party is fraudulent, the Republicans have near-parity.

20% of 45 = 9 45-9 = 36
36%Dem
35%Rep
15%Ind
9% Fraud

But you didn't get it when the Canticle helped you, I don't expect your math to be up to snuff.

[Maelstrom]

Also of note:
Arnold hasn't repudiated Bush, but he has disinvited him to the California elections.