Why I Am Now Behind Arnold

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[Maelstrom]

You "voting is a reflex" types are so funny.

California will go from Liberal to Conservative or die.

A Liberal republican in office doesn't change the very simple solution provided courtesy of the School of Hard Knocks.

[jwalsh07]

That's a reach but doesn't surprise me. Some people cannot seem to understand that being against assault weapons is not the same as being a gun grabber! If they have a need for assault weapons, then prove it!

All the proof you need PKM is the attempted theft of the last election by the Goreites and lefties.

But if that's not enough think 9/11.

[hole_n_one]

Besides, with the Democrats making public threats to shoot Arnold, we may need a replacement candidate.

You've got a point there.

[PhiKapMom]

{Religious conservatives will not win in some states}

Can you not read? Did I say Oklahoma where I live! Of course there can win here in Oklahoma but I have news for you -- except maybe for Istook, they don't consider themselves members of the religious right and I am not even sure about him. They are conservative and religious but members of the religious right they are not. J.C., Keating, Nickles have had some things to say about the likes of Robertson and Falwell for a long time!

If you think members of the religious right are going to win states like Maine or the rest of New England except maybe NH, think again! Not going to happen!

There is a big difference between being conservative and religious and being members of the religious right demanding that every politician live up to what they want or they won't vote! I have met some of those types. BTW, I am Baptist if you are wondering so don't get the impression I am some Liberal.

[PhiKapMom]

Please tell me what the need for assault weapons are? I lived outside of San Antonio and in SA there were gangs which had assault weapons that terrorized neighborhoods. That is the vision that comes to my mind.

I will defend anyone's right to own semi-automatic weapons, rifles, handguns, right to carry and the like. But I have trouble with assault weapons!

[Kevin Curry]

Arnold will be as good a Republican as Jim Jeffords has turned out to be.

Arnold could very easily change party affiliation once he is in. He would have to make absolutely no fundamental changes in policies or views--unless it is to become a bit more conservative so as not to offend moderate Democrats.

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

But I didn't misrepresent the establishment clause. It is the religious right that misrepresents it, acting as though the flagrant use of "God" is within Constitutionality because it doesn't endorse "a" religion, since as they say "God" is represented in several religions. What they manage to obscure though, of course, is that "God" is exclusively the deity of what can only be described as the greater Abrahamic religion.

[ladyinred]

Oh but we must get Davis out, we just must! I hope all Californians realize that. He is one of the most corrupt politicians in the world, seriously! This is the most important thing facing us in this state ever.

[jwalsh07]

Please tell me what the need for assault weapons are? I lived outside of San Antonio and in SA there were gangs which had assault weapons that terrorized neighborhoods. That is the vision that comes to my mind.

OK, try this vision PKM.

LA riots. Korean shopkeepers defending their property against overwhelming odds with AR-15's and AK's.

[Kevin Curry]

But I didn't misrepresent the establishment clause.

You don't even understand the establishment clause.

[Maelstrom]

Good point.

RINO's have a much poorer track record than the rest of us, and we're justified when we say we're through with them.

It's over...because THEY DON'T return the favors...and never have. Sometimes, it's scratch my back and I'll scratch yours. RINO's just screw the rest of the Republicans...it's history and you can look it up yourself.

And that'll probably be my last word on the subject.

[PhiKapMom]

Just to set the record straight -- I lived in California, my oldest daughter lives there, and I have a lot friends still there not to mention property! But guess that doesn't qualify me to speak out on California according to some!

[Kevin Curry]

LA riots. Korean shopkeepers defending their property against overwhelming odds with AR-15's and AK's.

Easy. Governor Ahhhhhhnold will hop in a Harrier jumpjet, fly to LA, and shoot the guns, sticks, and rocks out of the rioters' hands with his .50 cal gatling gun.

[Miss Marple]

Arnold Schwarzenegger has been a Republican since the 80's, at least. He served under Bush 41, and campaigned for him The idea that he would switch parties is ludicrous.

[ladyinred]

but not everything should be about our own personal whims and narrow agendas.

I could not agree more with that statement. The rest of this, though well written and thought out, I am not yet sure. I don't think the Clinton impeachment statements are necessarily true, though I agree that it was wrong to make it all about Monica, I am not sure that was all Starr's fault. The media did a lot of that to help Clinton. The most important thing to me is that Davis is gone, and that Cruz does not take his place. I will vote accordingly, because NO ONE is more dangerous than those two.

[PhiKapMom]

I can live with shopkeepers having protection! Thanks for the reasoned response.

What happens when they start firing their AK's and hit cops instead of rioters? Or innocent people?

[jwalsh07]

But I didn't misrepresent the establishment clause.

Certainly you did. Concurrent with the drafting and ratification of the COnstitution several of the states did indeed have state religions. The states wanted protection from a national religion, a la King George and his merry men, and thus the establishment clause.

That's a fact Doc. Deal with it.

It is the religious right that misrepresents it, acting as though the flagrant use of "God" is within Constitutionality because it doesn't endorse "a" religion, since as they say "God" is represented in several religions.

Religious right, left or atheist, the voluntary use of the word God is a self evident right I would think. What philosophy is it that you adhere to than bans free speech in the public square?

What they manage to obscure though, of course, is that "God" is exclusively the deity of what can only be described as the greater Abrahamic religion.

So what?

[ladyinred]

The A word is destroying the party. In the first place, it is not a state issue anymore, it is federal, therefore it won't matter what the governor thinks about it as far as the laws are concerned. The A word needs to stop being a political issue because it is used against us to the detriment of the entire party. I am pro life, but to me this is an issue of the heart and soul, and it won't go away until hearts are changed. We can't get judges or anything because of this, so it needs to be taken off the table until we can get people in place that can do something about it. Hope this makes sense, not sure how to explain what I mean!

[Tamzee]

This is unbelieveable -- lifelong Republicans get called RINO's because we are not "pure" conservatives. Who would have thought!

Not unbelievable, actually, it seems typical for both left and right extreme ideologues. It happens often over at DU when certain Democrats don't agree with the Greenies that Bush planned 9/11 on purpose... and they use the same poisonous insults and pious pedestals as our far-right Freepers use on anyone not agreeing with them here.

It's distressing to see such awful similarities between far-lefties and far-righters... anyone who holds a different view than they do is lower than dirt and a traitor to some ideal that exists only in their own minds :-(

[votelife]

good tag line!