Why I Am Now Behind Arnold

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[Howlin]

I do not see the need for anyone in civilian life to own an assault rifle but then that makes me a RINO and anti-gun rights!

She didn't say YOU couldn't have one; she said she didn't see the need for it.

And her point is right: if she voices that opinion, she branded a gun grabber/hater and a RINO.

Believe me, I know.

PKM, look for that post to come back to haunt you. I had the nerve to say I didn't want some jerkwad living next to me to have an Uzi.

You can't believe how many times it's posted here (and at the Little Place) to PROVE I'm a liberal.

[AeWingnut]

very insightful

as opposed to

insiteful

[kingu]

{What about the native americans who worship many spirits?}

Native Americans, by and large, worship God. The majority are Catholic, though both the Mormons and the Baptists are making strong inroads. Please don’t let Disney describe the beliefs of a people.

[Amelia]

I had the nerve to say I didn't want some jerkwad living next to me to have an Uzi.

I don't have any problem with me or my neighbor owning an Uzi, but I'm a little leery about the idea of the drug lords downtown owning them.

[justshe]

How long do you think it'll be before The Legend copies and pastes that one over at the Little Place (I love that!) since he's got such a "thang" for you AND PKM.........LOL

[Sabertooth]

Curiously, Sabertooth saw fit to question your admittance date, and really didn't bother addressing what seemed like a pretty good essay.

I especially liked the part about Ken Starr and his failings in the impeachment of Clinton.

Clinton and Starr are not hot-button issues in California's Gubernatorial Recall campaign.

I, and most Californians, don't give a rip about how this election affects the rest of the country; we have a mess, and we're cleaning it up. On the flip side, we've never expected the rest of the country to bail us out financial hole in which our officials have buried us.

Wasn't really impressed with the rest of the essay either. I found it to be more of the same appeal to conformity, predicated on the notion that my vote is not mine to cast as I please, even if I'm voting for a Republican, even if that Republican wins, but by less than the artificially raised bar the essayist presumes to dictate to me. "Vote for Arnold because more People Magazine readers do" is simply not compelling.

This is a recall and replacement election of the second most powerful elected Executive in the nation. Only South Dakota in 1921 has recalled a governor. We're doing something unique and Historic in this state and in America, and you all are certainly welcome to pull up a chair and watch us do it. However, I've lived in California all my life, and I've got a few ideas as to why this state is screwed up the way it is, because I lived here when it was a much better place.

There's no way I'm going to have my vote stampeded by people who aren't thinking beyond 2004, and who don't have the knowledge or the desire for my State's best interests in them.

[jwalsh07]

The intent is that Congress shall not respect religion as an establishment.

LOL.

In other words, Congress is to REMAIN SILENT on all things religious.

Again, LOL. The Constitution requires neutrality not SILENCE. Karl Marx and Josef Stalin required SILENCE.

[jwalsh07]

She didn't say YOU couldn't have one; she said she didn't see the need for it.

Yeah, I know which is why I was trying to explain it from mine and the founders view point.

And I certainly wouldn't call PKM any names. We see things alike.

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

Native Americans, by and large, worship God. The majority are Catholic, though both the Mormons and the Baptists are making strong inroads. Please don’t let Disney describe the beliefs of a people.

Yes, that is true, but... not to go all lib on you here but, they were BEATEN into Christianity just like the slaves were. There are many Native Americans on the reservations who still practice their original traditions.

[Kuksool]

{Religious conservatives will not win in some states}

Are Frank Keating, J.C. Watts, Ernest Istook, Don Nickles, and James Inhofe losers? The New York Times would consider these people to be members of the vast religious right conspiracy.

[nickcarraway]

But isn't it a fact that anything salacious, short of a dead body, won't go over very well with the voters in California?

Not necessarily. If voters were that tolerant we wouldn't be having this recall. As far as anything salacious, you never can tell. California voters may not decide they want that in a governor. For all of California's wierdness, it hasn't been what we've looked for in a governor. Gray Davis and Pete Wilson are a pretty boring group, and previous ones too.

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

Sorry for the use of legal terminology. "Remain silent" is just what it's called.

[hole_n_one]

All that's missing now is your essay titled Force McClintock Out

[jwalsh07]

Sorry for the use of legal terminology. "Remain silent" is just what it's called.

Are you also sorry for misrepresenting the plain and clear meaning of the "establishment clause"?

[kingu]

{Yes, that is true, but... not to go all lib on you here but, they were BEATEN into Christianity just like the slaves were. There are many Native Americans on the reservations who still practice their original traditions.}

Well, I know of a couple who did suffer beatings when they didn’t act as expected fast enough, but, by and large American Indians have joined Christianity as a matter of choice. The message is a powerful one, and it naturally attracts people. Original traditions are practiced by a minority, a larger number off reservation follow such beliefs, and mostly they’re copying the religions of other tribes. Those beatings you spoke of destroyed all knowledge of many traditional beliefs. It would take a bit of imagining to think of what it might be like to read reports written by disinterested people who only half paid attention, seeking the ‘truth’ that your grandparents followed, or to get some clue as to what their language sounded like. You’re a bit into my area of expertise.

[Sabertooth]

The other day I finally figured out that the people calling us RINO's are the people threatening not to vote and about time we turned it around on them.

How'd you manage that, since you're not Californian, and aren't voting in our recall election? You're staying home, by law.

Tell you what, I've voted for every Republican nominee on every ballot since I joined the party, and intend to do so next year as well. I've voted for every lousy RNC-approved candidate and losing campaign since 1994, the last time a Republican at the top of the ticket won anything here. I've paid my dues, and I'll cast my vote as I please, for the candidate who I feel is best able to turn my state around. And my vote will go to a Republican.

This, however, is not an election with a primary, it's a recall and replacement election, which means there will be multiple candidates on the ballot, and more than one Republican. To point to a few polls favoring one candidate after less than a week in the campaign and presume that is the equivalent of a primary, and that the very presumption requires California Republicans to fall in now behind that candidate is quite bizarre, and not very republican, or Republican.

[PhiKapMom]

Yep! Looks like I am going to get called a RINO again -- this time by the 2nd amendment folks because I still don't see a need for someone to own an assault rifle and anyone calling me names isn't going to change that fact.

That's a reach but doesn't surprise me. Some people cannot seem to understand that being against assault weapons is not the same as being a gun grabber! If they have a need for assault weapons, then prove it!

They might as well go all the way and buy a humvee with assault weapons on them. Or better yet, get a tank because the 2nd amendment says they can own any gun they want!

This is unbelieveable -- lifelong Republicans get called RINO's because we are not "pure" conservatives. Who would have thought!

[DrMartinVonNostrand]

I would never suggest McClintock leave the race. Only Simon. There is room for one traditional conservative on the ballot. He will help bring out the anti-Davis vote. Who will replace Davis doesn't matter a whole lot if we can't get 51% to throw him out. Besides, with the Democrats making public threats to shoot Arnold, we may need a replacement candidate.

[jwalsh07]

Legally there is nothing that stops the Government from regulating which arms are and aren't legal. The right to bear arms is quite narrow. That's just the way it is. The Government has to have the ability to regulate it. Otherwise the 2nd Amendment would also guarantee your right to NUCLEAR arms.

Sheesh, where do you get this crap from. The second amendment's intent was for the inactive militia, in those days all men between the ages of 18 and 45, to be armed with the same weapons as the active milita.

In other words, I should be able to have the M-16 I carried in the Army hanging on my gun rack. I didn't carry nuclear weapons. Did you?

[Howlin]

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