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Pheobe Debates The Theory of Evolution
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Posted on 07/24/2003 1:55:39 PM PDT by Mr.Atos

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To: Aric2000
"When we do NOT post ATTACKS, when we do NOT namecall, When we do NOT troll for a flamewar"

and you plan on not doing all this when?
2,621 posted on 08/14/2003 7:42:46 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: Aric2000
Like I said ... I signed on to the agreement just to see if the evos could discuss their beliefs w / o a blowout --- impossible !

Flakes can't handle reality - truth when they're only hypeing bias - schlock !

They don't have an inkling or understanding in what they are doing - believing - preaching ... rote ideology --- trojan straw - stick ass SUCK UP MIND GAMES and they call it science --- conservatism ? ? ?
2,622 posted on 08/14/2003 7:44:10 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: Aric2000
America is going to have to decide - choose ... if we are going to be a # 2 soviet or --- a # 1 republican - free state !
2,623 posted on 08/14/2003 7:46:23 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: Aric2000
why are you telling me this? I've been around here a lot longer than you.

I thought you had me on your vaunted virtual ignore...but you constantly try to reply to my posts when I never post directly to you.

I prefer to be on your ignore list...you 'threatened' me several times...I never refused...requesting again for third time.

Thank you.

2,624 posted on 08/14/2003 7:48:28 PM PDT by NewLand (The truth can't be ignored...)
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To: Aric2000
IOW - shut yer piehole
2,625 posted on 08/14/2003 7:51:17 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: f.Christian
I reccommend to you 'The Ideological Origins of the American Revolution' by Bernard Bailyn.

He clearly shows the roots of American liberty in Non-conformist English Protestantism.

Without liberty, America will be just another socialist wasteland. Judging from some of the rhetoric on this site, if that were to happen, whited sepulcher Christians will have been among those responsible, by blessing Caesar with the authority of God.

All imo.
2,626 posted on 08/14/2003 7:52:17 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Aric2000
To: Aric2000

Take your pompous tiddlywinks game and shove it.

btw - I noticed you changed your FR homepage to take out that you are a "leftwing republican". Why is that?
Tired of being called what you are?


75 posted on 08/14/2003 7:29 PM PDT by ALS
2,627 posted on 08/14/2003 7:54:13 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: headsonpikes
"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded not by religionists but by Christians, not on religion but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We shall not fight alone. God presides over the destinies of nations." - Patrick Henry

"The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretence, infringed.'' - James Madison (Original wording of the First Amendment; Annals of Congress 434 (June 8, 1789).)

Every man "ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience." - George Washington (Letter to the United Baptist Churches in Virginia in May, 1789)
2,628 posted on 08/14/2003 7:54:49 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: PatrickHenry
"Irrelevant NTT" placemarker
2,629 posted on 08/14/2003 8:02:13 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: ALS
William L . Anderson on ... LewRockwell.com

"In an earlier article on this subject, I noted that researchers have found that the single most telling predictor of a person’s political preferences is that individual’s attitude towards conservative Christians. Those who intensely ... hate people in that religious camp --- almost always are Democrats."

Wow .. see this everyday on the FR !

2,630 posted on 08/14/2003 8:04:24 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: f.Christian
Ann Coulter bowled me over when I asked her the following question:

"Ann, why do liberals hate conservatives in 2003 America?"

Her answer was a simple one, and then the clock ran out and she was gone. But that simple answer stirred the pot, and it echoed what this column had proclaimed merely weeks ago.

Ann Coulter:
"Conservatives, by and large believe in God, and liberals believe they are gods," came the reply.
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33427


Bondserv:
You realize that the current head of our party is a fundamentalist who actually reads the Bible for himself.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/943130/posts?page=1602#1602
2,631 posted on 08/14/2003 8:07:51 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: Aric2000
As stated in the post above, your private mail to me has been deleted unread.
2,632 posted on 08/14/2003 8:11:56 PM PDT by gore3000 (Intelligent people do not believe in evolution.)
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To: ALS
I'll bump those quotes.
2,633 posted on 08/14/2003 8:12:56 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: gore3000; Alamo-Girl; PatrickHenry; jennyp
Look at you foaming at the mouth at A-G as if she were some sort of evo! "Nonsense?" "Hypocrisy?" "Deceitful?" "Dishonest?"

Your language is uncalled for, inflammatory, and exactly the kind of absurd blue-spew bombast you've habitually abused in every argument you've been in for the last 2 1/2 years.

If anyone is making a farce of this agreement, you are. And I notice you continue to claim that jennyp must share responsibility for ALS's misdeeds simply because she continued to talk to him. I hope no one but you ever accepts that premise. When you're all grown up you can take responsibility for the content of your own posts.

You can't have it both ways. If creationists are to be taken as responsible netizens they can't plead diminished culpability for their own actions by virtue of simply being creationists.

I've had you off of virtual ignore in honor of our both signing the agreement, but if you don't apologize to A-G and start behaving halfway reasonably, you're back in Never-Never Land.

2,634 posted on 08/14/2003 8:16:16 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: gore3000
That's too bad, because now I have to state publicly what I privately wrote you.

As far as I am concerned you owe Alamo-Girl a HUGE apology.

Your behavior and threats are unwarranted, without basis in fact, and beyond ridiculous.

I find your attitude toward her offensive, she has been beyond fair to you throughout this whole situation, I find your defense of a troller and your attacks on a TRUE christian beyond the pale and you should be ashamed.

Your defense of such behavior in ALS tells me a lot about what is and what is not acceptable to you, and ANY behavior by someone who calls themselves a christian is acceptable as long as they agree with you, when they don't, then that poster is somehow being brought away from the true word and is somehow going to go down the path to hell.

I am offended, I can just imagine how A-G feels, (but that is the point of such attacks, is it not?) we have shown NOTHING but respect for her, her beliefs, her writings etc, we may not agree with ALL of it, but we do not attack her like you and ALS have been doing, not even close.

Hell, I wouldn't treat my worst enemy the way you are treating Alamo-Girl right now.

You should be Thoroughly ashamed of yourself.

You call yourself a Christian, put up with and DEFEND the Trollish behavior of a fellow Christian, and then attack a REAL christian who disagrees with what you think.

I am absolutely ashamed of you, and YOU are VERY close to going right back to the Absolute virtual ignore you came from, because as far as I am concerned, and what I have seen from your defense of him etc, that you probably were in on this little scheme from the get-go, and are a little upset that he gave the game away in an e-mail to me.

I am beginning to suspect a much LARGER conspiracy then just one lone nut poster, and you are angry that indeed your choice for moderator was indeed FAIR to all sides, when that was NOT supposed to happen.

If that accusation above is false, then perhaps you can explain to me why you are defending a KNOWN troll, a self proclaimed conspiracist and someone who outright ATTACKS anyone that disagrees with him?

If that is christian behavior, then I think your definition is a bit off.

That is all I will say to that, but again, YOU OWE Alamo-Girl a HUGE apology. I am offended by your entire post and unwarranted attack.

You besmirch a REAL christian in defense of an Innameonly one.

You should be ashamed.
2,635 posted on 08/14/2003 8:27:33 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: Aric2000
Blue meltdown all over my screen, out-for-the-night Placemarker!
2,636 posted on 08/14/2003 8:30:11 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Aric2000
You probably think jimmy carter is a christian too !

People out of reality are fathered in ... its called love - grace --- lost sheep (( the ones the wolves are to fat eat )) !

God never meant anyone to be so mind - soul less !

You like the weaklings - pushovers ... ignorant people like yourself !
2,637 posted on 08/14/2003 8:36:37 PM PDT by f.Christian (evolution vs intelligent design ... science3000 ... designeduniverse.com --- * architecture * !)
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To: VadeRetro
All over the screen, have a good night.
2,638 posted on 08/14/2003 8:37:33 PM PDT by Aric2000 (If the history of science shows us anything, it is that we get nowhere by labeling our ignorance god)
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To: VadeRetro; Aric2000
Neither of you two worthless chihuahuas have any credibility so your opinion of a fine FReeper in good standing is as worthless.

You both owe him an apology for your childish self-serving attacks.
2,639 posted on 08/14/2003 8:38:02 PM PDT by ALS (http://designeduniverse.com Featuring original works by FR's finest . contact me to add yours!)
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To: gore3000; VadeRetro; Aric2000; All
VadeRetro and Aric2000, thank y’all for coming to my defense!

Gore3000, I have concluded that you and I are unable to communicate. We read the same thing and come away with two different and irreconcilable understandings.

For instance, I said in post 2540 which was addressed to VadeRetro; gore3000; jennyp; PatrickHenry; Aric2000

As a complying poster, we are all obligated not to bring an accusation against another poster without also showing the evidence of that accusation on the same post (Disclosure clause): ”We will not bring an accusation against another poster or his beliefs without also bringing, on the same post, the evidence for that accusation”

Thus, every accusation on this thread made by a complying poster without such evidence on the same post is of no effect whatsoever and should be ignored by all to avoid inciting anger. Unsupported allegations are meaningless.

You concluded that I was singling you out for criticism. But my words and my intent was speaking to all of us, i.e. any unsupported allegation should be ignored to avoid inciting anger.

The rest of your post is more of such failures to communicate and thus it would be pointless to discuss it any further with you - and I therefore decline to respond to all except this one point:

Let me just say this to you Alamo-Girl, I am deeply troubled by your posts. Not because of what they say to me or about me, but what they say about you. I realize that the desire to be liked and the desire to be a peacemaker are strong human emotions. I realize that your faith and your conscience are strong. However the above human desires have led you to desert your friends and co-religionists and have made you side with those which have forever shown contempt for your beliefs. Worse, look at what their friendship has cost you - to write the above drivel which I know, for I hold you in far too much respect, must have hurt your conscience, your sense of fairness and your sense of decency to utter. So therefore Alamo-Girl, I ask you to examine your actions in the light of your faith and your conscience before your adherence to your new friends leads you to eternal error.

gore3000, you do not have a window to my mind and thus do not know my motives.

To be very, very clear on this to everyone Lurking our conversation - I am a Christian. I love God absolutely and I love every mortal unconditionally. I pray for everyone, including my enemies. I do not value another Christian or friend above a non-Christian or an enemy.

I am in this world but I am not of this world. The One to whom I kneel and in Whom I abide, is Jesus. I will not compromise the Word to keep the friendship of another Christian or to make friends with anyone else.

Every time I post, I pray. After I post, I pray. God is my witness, my guide and my judge in all my dealings in this mortal plane, including everything I have said and done on this forum.

All of the ill tempered posts directed towards me cost me nothing, gore3000. Indeed, if I lose a “friend” by trying to do the right thing according to the Word, it counts as a blessing as long as I abide in Him.

If you (or anyone else) have a complaint against me with regard to my eternal well-being or conduct as a Christian, please take it to the Judge.

As a final note, I want to make it clear to all Lurking that I will post abuse on stalking. I am not accusing you of stalking, gore3000 – but stalking has been going on, and if it continues, I will report it because such obsessive hatred is unhealthy to everyone on the forum.

2,640 posted on 08/14/2003 9:32:55 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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